[Canuk]

With the petrol engine I baby the pedal when taking off otherwise it takes off like the proverbial Bat out of Hell.

But when driving a strange car I always try to see how it accelerates, to make merging in traffic easier and safer

 

[tangey]

I have the P250, which is mild hybrid, bought new in Jan. I find it is quite bad off the line. I can mitigate it a bit by going to sport + dynamic + manual gears, but that's an awful lot of button using etc, just to get off from a roundabout. Even overtaking, you have to plan well ahead, it kinda reminds me at times of a manual, that gets bogged down cause you dropped the clutch without enough revs.

I'm really quite surprised in a negative way. I came from a GLC250d, which I noticed had bad lag, and in fact was my biggest bugbear with the car. But I thought switching to a petrol with 240bhp + a battery that was specifically stated to reduce getaway delay, + a car that was 6 years younger, would have much reduced the issue.

It didn't, it still remains my biggest bugbear, and constantly annoying.

btb, for those with the optional dynamic settings , there should be an option that allows dynamic to be automatically selected when you put the gearshift into sports mode, seems pretty obvious to me that most times people putting it into sport want the full beans, which isn't what you get if you have the dynamic settings option.

 

[roadster]

You a right to be upset and I can't think of any technical reason why a fuel injected petrol engine would have any problem, and as you say even less so if it is supposed to have battery assist too. The conclusion must be that it has been restricted in software. This could have been because the geartrain isn't strong enough for repeated full power getaways or it could be because the resultant fuel saving improves the test figures. For me it is a safety issue when the driver can't rely on immediate and predictable accelerator pedal response. The test drive of my current vehicle was enough to convince me that it could be so much better.

 

[PCOL66]

is anyone else disappointed with how poor the Auto gearbox is? I had a Merc auto a year or so ago which was an absolute dream to drive, both pulling away and in general driving. My disco though is woeful bordering on downright dangerous when pulling away. whether I'm taking a rolling start or from complete standstill if you put your foot down to pull away you get absolutely nothing for 2/3seconds then it pulls away like an absolute rocket, firing you back in to your seat! Its about as subtle as a clown fight.

I genuinely think its trying to kill me!

I have not long since got mine, 2017 2.0D auto and I must admit the auto gearbox is not too clever when you need to accelerate quickly e.g overtaking, joining a carriageway or crossing a road. In normal driving, it is ok as long as you just nurse the pedal lightly but it doesn't seem to like it when you need to accelerate quicker than usual. I am currently trying out the paddles i.e I have activated the gear shift paddles to work in Drive mode so when approaching a junction I pull the downshift paddle and choose 2nd gear to pull away when crossing the highway and then manually change up with the right-hand paddle until it gets to speed, it seems to stay active in manual for around 30 seconds or so when driving then reverts back to auto. It's early days yet so I am still getting used to it and will try it joining the motorway and overtaking once I am comfortable with the switching between manual to auto, hopefully, it will be an improvement as it can be quite dangerous when joining the motorway when it's busy. My personal opinion is there are too many gears 6 or 7 should be more than enough but suppose it helps fuel economy I seem to avg between 35mpg and 45mpg around town at the moment which is quite good for a big car

I hope this is helpful

 

[Dashnine]

is anyone else disappointed with how poor the Auto gearbox is? I had a Merc auto a year or so ago which was an absolute dream to drive, both pulling away and in general driving. My disco though is woeful bordering on downright dangerous when pulling away. whether I'm taking a rolling start or from complete standstill if you put your foot down to pull away you get absolutely nothing for 2/3seconds then it pulls away like an absolute rocket, firing you back in to your seat! Its about as subtle as a clown fight.

I genuinely think its trying to kill me!

I have not long since got mine, 2017 2.0D auto and I must admit the auto gearbox is not too clever when you need to accelerate quickly e.g overtaking, joining a carriageway or crossing a road. In normal driving, it is ok as long as you just nurse the pedal lightly but it doesn't seem to like it when you need to accelerate quicker than usual. I am currently trying out the paddles i.e I have activated the gear shift paddles to work in Drive mode so when approaching a junction I pull the downshift paddle and choose 2nd gear to pull away when crossing the highway and then manually change up with the right-hand paddle until it gets to speed, it seems to stay active in manual for around 30 seconds or so when driving then reverts back to auto. It's early days yet so I am still getting used to it and will try it joining the motorway and overtaking once I am comfortable with the switching between manual to auto, hopefully, it will be an improvement as it can be quite dangerous when joining the motorway when it's busy. My personal opinion is there are too many gears 6 or 7 should be more than enough but suppose it helps fuel economy I seem to avg between 35mpg and 45mpg around town at the moment which is quite good for a big car

I hope this is helpful

If you put the gearbox into Sport the paddles will stay in manual until you hold the right paddle for 2 secs.

Sport mode will also roughly be in a gear lower than Drive, so when it's trying to pull in 3rd, in the same situation in Sport it'd probably be in 2nd. Drive is always trying to be in a higher gear for economy, changing down on demand. I think the software was tweaked in later cars as my MY19 is much better than MY16 albeit petrols vs diesel.

Squeezing the throttle rather than flooring it seems to produce a quicker getaway in most cases.

 

[sandbox]

There are 9 gears as the first is for terrain response modes. You typically pull away in second unless you have a special program set, very low traction or towing etc.

If you find you need to change down quick then press down hard on the accelerator, and then a bit more as there is a "false bottom". This will force a change down (kick down) and give you more power.

Try driving in S if you need to hold onto gears for longer.

Finally, re-set the memory on your Automatic Gearbox:

1) Press Start button but don't turn on the engine.

2) Press the Accelerator down to the floor for about 15 seconds.

3) Hit the start button again to turn off the power.

4) Remove foot from Accelerator
.
5) Wait for 2 Mins.

6) Start the engine and Drive.

 

[PCOL66]

is anyone else disappointed with how poor the Auto gearbox is? I had a Merc auto a year or so ago which was an absolute dream to drive, both pulling away and in general driving. My disco though is woeful bordering on downright dangerous when pulling away. whether I'm taking a rolling start or from complete standstill if you put your foot down to pull away you get absolutely nothing for 2/3seconds then it pulls away like an absolute rocket, firing you back in to your seat! Its about as subtle as a clown fight.

I genuinely think its trying to kill me!

I have not long since got mine, 2017 2.0D auto and I must admit the auto gearbox is not too clever when you need to accelerate quickly e.g overtaking, joining a carriageway or crossing a road. In normal driving, it is ok as long as you just nurse the pedal lightly but it doesn't seem to like it when you need to accelerate quicker than usual. I am currently trying out the paddles i.e I have activated the gear shift paddles to work in Drive mode so when approaching a junction I pull the downshift paddle and choose 2nd gear to pull away when crossing the highway and then manually change up with the right-hand paddle until it gets to speed, it seems to stay active in manual for around 30 seconds or so when driving then reverts back to auto. It's early days yet so I am still getting used to it and will try it joining the motorway and overtaking once I am comfortable with the switching between manual to auto, hopefully, it will be an improvement as it can be quite dangerous when joining the motorway when it's busy. My personal opinion is there are too many gears 6 or 7 should be more than enough but suppose it helps fuel economy I seem to avg between 35mpg and 45mpg around town at the moment which is quite good for a big car

I hope this is helpful

If you put the gearbox into Sport the paddles will stay in manual until you hold the right paddle for 2 secs.

Sport mode will also roughly be in a gear lower than Drive, so when it's trying to pull in 3rd, in the same situation in Sport it'd probably be in 2nd. Drive is always trying to be in a higher gear for the economy, changing down on demand. I think the software was tweaked in later cars as my MY19 is much better than MY16 albeit petrols vs diesel.

Squeezing the throttle rather than flooring it seems to produce a quicker getaway in most cases.

Thank you for that, I have found it to be ok most of the time when driving in normal traffic flow, as you say gently pressing the accelerator does produce quite a quick response after getting used to it, I think after some practice I will find the sweet spot, i.e so I can accelerate without throwing the passengers back in their seats lol, I've only tried sport mode a couple of times but will try it for joining the motorway, etc do you know if its ok to switch from sport to drive when in motion? i.e once on the motorway? Ive just had a gearbox software update but it doesnt seem to have made much of a difference but it does seem a little better. Thank you

 

[sandbox]

do you know if its ok to switch from sport to drive when in motion?

Yes, you can switch between Drive and Sport while in motion.

If you are still experiencing lag then try the gearbox reset documented above.

 

[PCOL66]

do you know if its ok to switch from sport to drive when in motion?

Yes, you can switch between Drive and Sport while in motion.

If you are still experiencing lag then try the gearbox reset documented above.

Thank you for that. I did try the transmission reset but it didnt seem to make much difference, I have just had it in the dealers for software updates and one of them was a Transmission update so Ill try it again and see if it improves.

 

[sandbox]

do you know if its ok to switch from sport to drive when in motion?

Yes, you can switch between Drive and Sport while in motion.

If you are still experiencing lag then try the gearbox reset documented above.

Thank you for that. I did try the transmission reset but it didnt seem to make much difference, I have just had it in the dealers for software updates and one of them was a Transmission update so Ill try it again and see if it improves.

The reset clears the gearbox memory and it then relearns your driving style and adapts. So it isn't an instant fix. It will take time for it to adapt.

 

[Cihan Sagdan]

Good find !

I'll post the instructions here in case they move or disappear
Courtesy of Evoque Forum:

Here are the instructions on how to re-set the memory on your Automatic Gearbox.

1) Press Start button but don't turn on the engine.
2) Press the Accelerator down to the floor for about 15 seconds.
3) Hit the start button again to turn off the power.
4) Remove foot from Accelerator
5) Waity for 2 Mins.
6) Start the engine and Drive.

Simple but very effective- you WILL notice a difference- it re-sets the learnt driving/gear changes back to factory- re do as and when required.

It works on my discovery sport 2017.
Started to work normaly.
Thank you so much.

 

[Kelvin]

It works on my discovery sport 2017.
Started to work normaly.
Thank you so much.

Does anyone know whether the automatic gearbox reset procedure re-learns your driving style over a specific period only just after a reset or does it adjust itself all the time? For example, I drive to get performance out of the car, but my wife drives to get economy! What's it going to do?

 

[Canuk]

I taught my grandson to drive and placed the car in Drive and economy while teaching and afterwards I could feel the car not as peppy. After a hard drive car was normal but then an other driving lesson slowed it down. With 2 drivers the poor car has to be confused.

I found that driving in sport was more enjoyable and fuel economy was just the same or a little better. I live in a hilly area and the car bogs down sometimes on gentle uphill roads, staying in a higher gear when not in sport mode.

 

[PCOL66]

is anyone else disappointed with how poor the Auto gearbox is? I had a Merc auto a year or so ago which was an absolute dream to drive, both pulling away and in general driving. My disco though is woeful bordering on downright dangerous when pulling away. whether I'm taking a rolling start or from complete standstill if you put your foot down to pull away you get absolutely nothing for 2/3seconds then it pulls away like an absolute rocket, firing you back in to your seat! Its about as subtle as a clown fight.

I genuinely think its trying to kill me!

Yes the auto gearbox is the worst part of the DS. I have an early 2017 model and for driving/towing the gearbox is fine. The problem is pulling away from a standing start such as at junctions or entering a motorway from a slip road where you need to accelerate to slot into a gap on a busy motorway. I would describe it as dangerously hesitant i.e when you enter the lane on the motorway and hit the accelerator to catch up you notice a 40 tonner careering towards you whilst the car is trying to make it's mind up what gear it wants. You do get used to it but there are odd times when you get caught out and need to hold your breath. I think the problem is too many gears and a slow computer. This is probably to get fuel economy and compensate for the smaller engine for towing. In my opinion 5 or 7 gears would be better but not sure what impact it would have on economy and towing capacity. This has been a well known issue since the car was released. You can try checking for gearbox updates which can help and sports mode can make a bit of difference but there's no cure. Other than that the car drives fine.

 

[Andy131]

Mine had the dreaded hesitancy from a standing start, which is a "nuisance" as I have to pull out onto a main road with very poor visibility to my right. Bit of a disappointment for a car with 240bhp and 500Nm, once moving she goes like a startled rat, but still not a good idea. So as part of a DPF fix the guys did an upgrade to 300bhp, now I can't verify what the power increase is but it is very noticeable. Upside is that the lag has completely gone, shockingly so as you can hear the fronts scuffing - not spinning, but certainly a chirrup as you plant the foot into the carpet on full right lock, not careful and the rear will step out.
Now the worry, either the LR engineers are complete idiots or they have been told to limit things from a standstill to protect the transmission. The D240 doesn't have the Haldex as it can't handle 500Nm of torque, I guess I am going to find out if the GKN system also needs the kid gloves treatment.
Being honest the extra power in the beginning was fun, the lack of hesitancy is going to be a lifesaver, but plant your foot down and she feels a bit like an old Ford Escort Turbo with torque steer despite being in 4WD, and it's 30 years since I had the rear step out like she will now.

 

[RafflesNH]

8<
So as part of a DPF fix the guys did an upgrade to 300bhp......
8<

Andy, may one enquire who your 'guys' are please? As you live in my neck o' the woods, they may come in handy post warranty wise.

 

[Andy131]

I don't have permission to post the details, so have messaged detail. Will ask tomorrow if I can remember and will post if appropriate.
Definitely handy post warranty, as the DPF fault has gone away.

 

[RafflesNH]

I don't have permission to post the details, so have messaged detail. Will ask tomorrow if I can remember and will post if appropriate.
Definitely handy post warranty, as the DPF fault has gone away.

Thanks Andy. PM replied to.