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N128 January 2018

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#36 ·
G30RGE said:
it is left open by their statement
Correctly diagnosed balancer shaft whine issues can continue to be repaired under warranty.
Pretty bad wording again though : campaign suspended , keep changing the shafts .

.....which is sloppy engineering..
 
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NoDiscoSport said:
Barnsh said:
G30RGE said:
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Cheers George for the quick reply.,

I guess that means new engines with the lack of any other fix in place as per here..
https://www.discosportforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6052&start=120#p90177
Good decision given the number of unwanted diesel engines there must be lying around.
make sure the vehicle is not suffering from a Turbocharger whine before completing this campaign :shock:
... once Balancer shaft whine and Turbocharger whine have been eliminated, this fault should be attributed to Driver whine and charged accordingly. :lol:
DRIVER WHINE .? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
#33 ·
Barnsh said:
G30RGE said:
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Cheers George for the quick reply.,

I guess that means new engines with the lack of any other fix in place as per here..
https://www.discosportforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6052&start=120#p90177
Good decision given the number of unwanted diesel engines there must be lying around.
make sure the vehicle is not suffering from a Turbocharger whine before completing this campaign :shock:
... once Balancer shaft whine and Turbocharger whine have been eliminated, this fault should be attributed to Driver whine and charged accordingly. :lol:
 
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Badgerface said:
Well well well......there's a turn-up!
Yep, changing half a bearing is never a good idea, which child thought that was ever going to be a fix!

That brown and blue is overheating , it stinks of a lubrication / ,bearing tolerance, issue. Or perhaps it's just not man enough for the speed or bearing load.
 
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G30RGE said:
latest status on Topix

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Thanks for that , did you manage to get the date of release for this?

It's important for those who currently have this issue.

Thanks
 
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Chippy said:
"Incorrect tolerance in manufacture

Oil system blockage , or even incorrectly assembled oil pumps , or poor quality oil.

Perhaps a fixed ball would have lasted longer."

This costs money so the problems could be attributed to cost savings and why should JLR care how the customer suffers.
The thing that bugs me after viewing that video a few times , and then looking at the spares list I can only assume the new balance shaft comes with the bearing already fitted to it.
So they are not pressing out and refitting the outer bearing shell.
So any balance shaft replacement with scored bearing rollers is bound to fail as the outer shell will already be scored.

They should all be engine replacements.

Yes it's money , stuff the customer .

However if the do change the shaft and it fails again , under consumer rights law in the UK you can get a replacement vehicle as they have had one attempt at repair and it failed.
Couple that with the fact they have issued a document listing all vehicles affected , it's a known issue , so even after 6 months you can demand a replacement vehicle or refund.
 
#25 ·
"Incorrect tolerance in manufacture

Oil system blockage , or even incorrectly assembled oil pumps , or poor quality oil.

Perhaps a fixed ball would have lasted longer."

This costs money so the problems could be attributed to cost savings and why should JLR care how the customer suffers.
 
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NoDiscoSport said:
Oz video of the noise and the damaged shafts causing it.

Incorrect tolerance in manufacture
Poor oil supply

Guessing when they replace dealers are replacing the outer race too? Who knows

Oil system blockage , or even incorrectly assembled oil pumps , or poor quality oil.

Remember roller bearings should not have any movement they are designed for fixed position shafts .

Perhaps a fixed ball would have lasted longer.