My (first and only so far) service included brake fluid change in the price. I checked beforehand. No guarantee that they did it of course, but I've no reason to doubt them. That's Marshalls of Peterborough. Cost was £520. If I were up in the north I'd get a quote from TVLR in Gateshead - they were always good value in the past, but I've not used them recently.

 

The problem is that there are two service indicators. One is regular based on time/mileage, the other is based on the estimated oil dilution. Changing the oil without resetting the indicator is not going to help. The oil dilution estimate is just that, there is no sensor that will sample the oil and determine that it is no longer diluted, or that the oil is actually diluted. Change the oil and not reset the indicator is a sure way of LR getting out of any engine warranty, at which point you might as well get the servicing done by an independent and save a couple of hundred pounds per service - if not more, speaking as someone who has just been quoted £630 for a 42,000 mile (3 year) service. The service sheet says replace brake fluid, what's the chance that it A) is an extra or B) gets ignored?

 

Hi guys,
I have a 66 plate disco sport with only 25k miles on it. It's a run about for the wife and we've had it since new.
It had a lot if oil dilution services the first 2 years but I'm guessing some software was tweaked as I don't recall it being such an issue the last 2 years.
It had a LR service in December but an oil service indication appeared on the dash last month.
I rang LR and they want to investigate and do an oil service ( approx £330). I was wondering if I just did an oil service myself for what is probably a dilution issue it might be more economical shall we say.
I can always get the car it's full service at LR next time to keep the full service history intact.
Any thoughts or advice appreciated.

 

Ideally change the filter, but i didn't after 10k miles - I just dropped the oil and refilled. I figured the less evidence of intrusion outside of JLR the better come any warranty work. My oil dilution was under 2%, so on that count i probably wasted £50 on oil. But at least there is cleaner oil circulating (the factory fill was black after a few hundred miles btw)

 

doing a interim oil change in between dealer services car has only done 5000 miles since last dealer service in may 2019 don't know weather to bother replaceing the oil filter bearing in mind JLR expect it to last 2 years/21000 miles or just drop the oil and replace with fresh oil. What have other forum members done.

I would change the filter if you are changing the oil

 

doing a interim oil change in between dealer services car has only done 5000 miles since last dealer service in may 2019 don't know weather to bother replaceing the oil filter bearing in mind JLR expect it to last 2 years/21000 miles or just drop the oil and replace with fresh oil. What have other forum members done.

 

I use these. You may need to ring them, the filters are not always on their web pages but are always available- don't ask me why that is!!

http://www.duckworthparts.co.uk/landrover/index.html

 

any online vendors selling the genuine oil filter? thanks

 

Thanks for the reply.
I just changed from 3200 miles to 3000 miles and that was after a 200 mile run?
So it's going to need an oil change before 20000 miles.

 

Not necessarily. Mine recently went from 3800 to 4000. The figure is produced by an algorithm based on the number of failed regenerations to date. If your driving habits change - ie you do a few longer journeys, the calculation will take this into account and alter its prediction.
It's not a bad idea to get the oil tested - plenty of comments on this forum about that!

 

I have a 68 plate SE Tech with 16500 miles on the clock, its due its first service ay 22000K miles but the dash is stating it needs an oil service in 3200mile.
Thing its I've been using the car a bit lately and it was giving the same warning message 1000 miles ago. surely the oil change requirement should work down as the odometer clocks up the miles?
I have been told JLR will do the oil change for free under warranty because it is before the specified service interval and I was going to send off a sample off the oil for lab testing to see condition it is in.
Should the oil service mileage count down as the odometer mileage goes up ?

 

Has anyone tried the millers xf longlife ow30 oil for their oil change

 

I've just had my Discovery in for some warranty work on the gearbox leaking oil, they rang me to say that the oil and filter needed changing at a cost of £328, does this sound right?

Parts & oil £108.52
Labour £165.00
Vat £54.70

On what grounds does it need a oil & filter change?

 

I've just had my Discovery in for some warranty work on the gearbox leaking oil, they rang me to say that the oil and filter needed changing at a cost of £328, does this sound right?

Parts & oil £108.52
Labour £165.00
Vat £54.70

My suggestion would be to find another dealer.

If your vehicle is under warranty as you state, then they are already aware that the campaign is still running, and even if it failed the criteria, an oil change at a dealer rate should be no more than £180. Of course, they will charge what they can get away with, so push for a campaign oil and filter change, or go elsewhere

 

I've just had my Discovery in for some warranty work on the gearbox leaking oil, they rang me to say that the oil and filter needed changing at a cost of £328, does this sound right?

Parts & oil £108.52
Labour £165.00
Vat £54.70

 

Bought one of those filter removal tools when in a Walmart in Florida recently, ( Family was getting the groceries for the villa) It was packaged as for a Toyota but I knew from this forum that it would be correct, cost was just 4 Dollars 50 Cents , about a fiver. yet another way that we in G.B. are over charged.

 

For information the engine oil drain plug (sump plug) torque is 25Nm (same as the filter cap). This can be found in section 303-00, Engine General and Ancillaries.pdf, page 70, of the manual which can be downloaded from the Technical Documents & Bulletins section.

 

Just a quick note on my two posts above.
Both 64mm and 65mm filter cap removal tools are marketed for the DS. Different manufacturers measure them differently. They both fit OK. The 64mm is across the flats and the 65mm is the diameter across the corners.

 

Answer to the above is: the size of the filter cap removal tool is determined by the diameter of the filter cap and not the distance across the flats. The correct size tool for the DS filter cap is 65mm x 14 flutes. Available from Amazon and elsewhere for around £8 - £10.
I have not removed the filter cap to date but the tool is a good fit. I'll be doing the job in the near future having now obtained the OEM filter, sump plug, and the correct oil. I've purchased enough consumables to do two oil changes which will work out around £85 per oil change.
I intend to do one intermediate change between main dealer services, which are covered buy the service plan.

 

Has anyone purchased an oil filter cap removal tool.? If so what size is correct? Brit parts and famousfour.com and others say it's 65mm x 14 flutes. I've measured the cap across flats and it's 64mm x 14 flutes. Now it could be that 65mm will do the job but the situation seems confusing as others on this forum are also quoting 64mm AF.
I've tried using hand method but it's pretty tight!

 

Thanks, that's useful info. My days of clambering around underneath to get at a sump plug are over, I'm thinking I'll get a vacuum pump to aid an oil refresh inbetween indicated services.... seems the Castrol E is only available in 1 litre bottles, pain in the backside!

Are you aware of this JLR-compliant alternative? Available in 1 and 5L and approved against the technically challenging in-house technical requirements of the Jaguar Land Rover engine oil specification STJLR.03.5007
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-162055-shell-helix-ultra-professional-aj-l-0w-30-fully-synthetic-engine-oil.aspx

 

an Ingenium engine is an Ingenium engine !

Well, more like "a transversely installed diesel Ingenium engine is a transversely diesel Ingenium engine" in that the longitudinal installed Ingeniums of any power rating don't suffer oil dilution as their exhaust clobber is nearer the engine in the engine bay. And the petrols are OK too....

 

Thanks, that's useful info. My days of clambering around underneath to get at a sump plug are over, I'm thinking I'll get a vacuum pump to aid an oil refresh inbetween indicated services.... seems the Castrol E is only available in 1 litre bottles, pain in the backside!

 

Cj987,
This is a statistic of one 240D only but the Millers Analysis for my MY18 DS 240D after 9,500 miles on this oil charge indicates a dilution of 6%. "Critical fuel dilution identified. We would advise this oil is changed". My experience would suggest that, irrespective of the rated horsepower an Ingenium engine is an Ingenium engine !
Call me old fashioned, but I changed the oil after the first 1000 miles driven and again changed and flushed at 10,500 miles driven. I was curious to see the condition of the oil / dilution %. No "Service required" messages on the screen but I now have N289 outstanding showing in TOPix. Renewal of oil and filter logged as Arduous Interim Service on OSH. Driving style is 30 mile minimum (home to Aberdeen) but generally 100 - 200 miles (home to Dumfries). I mostly use Premium fuel, no ECO, no S/S and mostly Sport mode, mpg is circa 38 - 42 with 2 up and overnight bags, and average speed cameras notwithstanding, even on the M90..............

 

I found the video very informative so thanks.

Although the D240 like I have doesn't suffer with the oil dilution issues, I still don't believe in leaving the oil for 2 years or 21000 miles, once me having an oil change done when the car was a year old.

Apologies for the hijack, this is something I have been wondering about. Is it commonly agreed that the d240 doesn't suffer from the dilution issue? My d240 is suggesting oil service in 8k ish, putting it at around 16k total. Does that sound usual behaviour for the 240? I'm guessing the twin turbo setup raises temps enough for better passive regen? Interested in views on this and experience of other d240 owners.