Got my first Discovery sport

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Scubapower1
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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Scubapower1 » Wed Dec 04, 2019 5:53 pm

Thanks guys , I have the 2 litre TD4 , got a few things for the dealer to have a look at already , it’s going in on Sunday for a couple of days , idle rattle at the front of exhaust and a hand brake warning keeps coming up , seem to work fine , but something is throwing the fault up , couple of other smaller issues , hopefully get them sorted out , anyone change there oil every year no matter the mileage ? , thanks again everyone .

Gary s
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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Gary s » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:07 am

Hi, Will be changing my oil in the next week or so, just competed nearly 11k, no oil service notifications etc and running like a dream but feel 10-11k is enough for any oil

Scubapower1
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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Scubapower1 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:03 pm

Looks like my disco sport is heading back to the garage for good , it falls into the bracket of oil dilution and balance shaft problems , does anyone now the dates for the problem , I thought it was the 2.0 litre engine 2016,17 and early 18 for balance shafts and the oil dilution , I see the 2.0 litre engine goes back to 2015 as well , are they included , are all 2.0 litre engines included , any info will be great , still reading all the posts on the subject .cheers guys

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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Dashnine » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:02 pm

Scubapower1 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:03 pm
Looks like my disco sport is heading back to the garage for good , it falls into the bracket of oil dilution and balance shaft problems , does anyone now the dates for the problem , I thought it was the 2.0 litre engine 2016,17 and early 18 for balance shafts and the oil dilution , I see the 2.0 litre engine goes back to 2015 as well , are they included , are all 2.0 litre engines included , any info will be great , still reading all the posts on the subject .cheers guys
All 2.0 diesels (except D240 which has a different exhaust arrangement) are liable to be affected by oil dilution and balance shaft issues (possibly related). Petrols OK so far (for balance shaft only obvs).
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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by bilo999 » Mon Dec 09, 2019 10:42 pm

Sorry to hear that - what will happen as a replacement as it sounds like you are rejecting the DS. ?
I’m quite sure that when they replace the balancer shafts the ones that don’t fail are from Fiat. As I said the DS is not going to be as reliable as an Alfa.
Hope you stay with the DS one way or another
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Scubapower1
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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Scubapower1 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:19 pm

Problem is , the car is fine at the moment , but the vin number falls into the bracket for the engine to have the balance shaft and oil dilution issue , so i could be driving a ticking time bomb , i now a guy at a main dealer and it could be a 4-5K repair or a new engine in the future , dont have that money after buying the the car in the first place .
The Dealer i have a friend at says the balance shaft problem has been fixed on the engines affected , but 15,16 and 17 have the problem , he says its a matter of time rather than if it happens , his work shop is doing 5 sets of balance shafts and 15 DPF filters a week at the moment , some of the range rovers are affected as well , so its disco sports , evoques , Range Rovers and some of the Jag range as well , i joined the LR UK wed page as well they have landrover docs that states the problem Vehicles .

Scubapower1
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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Scubapower1 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:33 pm

Heres the doc from LR
https://www.discosportforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7555

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Re: Got my first Discovery sport

Post by Rediscovery » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:23 pm

Scubapower1 wrote:
Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:19 pm
…. but 15,16 and 17 have the problem , he says its a matter of time rather than if it happens , his work shop is doing 5 sets of balance shafts and 15 DPF filters a week at the moment , some of the range rovers are affected as well , so its disco sports , evoques , Range Rovers and some of the Jag range as well ,
Not systemic faults at all then.
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Farmer john
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Oil dilution and balance shaft

Post by Farmer john » Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:54 pm

Just had a 21000 mile service done on my 18 plate discovery sport to be told that they need the car for three days for some warranty work. The DS has had four oil changes in its short life but the balance shaft bearing needs replacing. Will there be any other engin damage? How was the engin oil getting diluted. We had a new DS to drive today and the seats are so nice compared to mine.

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Re: Oil dilution and balance shaft

Post by Rediscovery » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:09 pm

Farmer john wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:54 pm
Just had a 21000 mile service done on my 18 plate discovery sport to be told that they need the car for three days for some warranty work. The DS has had four oil changes in its short life but the balance shaft bearing needs replacing. Will there be any other engin damage? How was the engin oil getting diluted. We had a new DS to drive today and the seats are so nice compared to mine.
The "oil dilution by diesel" phenomenon is caused by "higher than expected" post-injection activity, comprehensively explained in this document: https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0bcrd7sve4l598/D8_Dilution_Explained.pdf?dl=1

Diesel is a solvent and so any amount of diesel dilution thins the oil and reduces its lubrication properties. To what extent this accelerates normal engine wear isn't known but you can be sure that diesel in the oil won't extend engine life (see the oil sample thread for more information on excessive wear metals). It was thought for a while that balancer shaft bearing failure was connected to oil dilution but what evidence there is doesn't appear to support a direct causal link. There's definitely some kind of systemic problem with balance shafts but at this time a consistent, verifiable, theory for its causes remains elusive. The four piston cooling jets, which are designed to turn off as much as possible to minimise internal energy losses, appear to be the only source of the oil mist that lubricates the high-speed roller needle bearings. It could be that, in an effort to be economical, these engines are inadvertently depriving the balance shaft bearings of sufficient oil. For the moment, though, this is just speculation.

No-one knows how the micro-hybrids are going to perform in respect of these issues. Obviously JLR sales people will tell you that the DPF clogging and diesel dilution problems with the old model are all in the past. At one dealership they told a prospective customer that the new architecture was "totally different" and that therefore everything had been fixed. The problem was that when asked for a bit more proof, the sales person was only able to point out the new convenient location of the DEF filler.

Watch these pages during the next six months would be my advice.
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