Driving home tonight and the car went into limp mode. Phoned LR Assist - they dispatched the AA, AA turn up and run a diagnostic check which shows a DPF fault. Fault cleared, car working again, will chase LR for a replacement tomorrow.
He's right. Based on your comments, this car may not be suitable for your driving needs. That being the case, the MD has just handed you on a plate the makings of a rejection under the Consumer Rights Act 2015. If it's not suitable now, then it wasn't suitable in March 2017, when they sold it to you. In my opinion, and that of many contributors to this forum, the type of fault you are experiencing might be one that the manufacturer can't or won't fix and therefore it will stay this way until a new model is introduced.The MD has got me a very posh courtesy car and now phoned to say he thinks it's just not suitable for me.
OK That's interesting, thank you very much for your advice. I'm gutted though!NoDiscoSport said:He's right. Based on your comments, this car may not be suitable for your driving needs. That being the case, the MD has just handed you on a plate the makings of a rejection under the Consumer Rights Act 2015. If it's not suitable now, then it wasn't suitable in March 2017, when they sold it to you. In my opinion, and that of many contributors to this forum, the type of fault you are experiencing might be one that the manufacturer can't or won't fix and therefore it will stay this way until a new model is introduced.The MD has got me a very posh courtesy car and now phoned to say he thinks it's just not suitable for me.
However, before going down the path of rejection you should eliminate the possibility that a faulty SCRF (a metal box under the car that houses the DPF) is contributing to the faults you have experienced. Take the car back to the dealer and demand that they take the SCRF off to inspect its serial number as described in this recent publication: https://www.discosportforums.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=7558
If the SCRF is one of the faulty ones it will be changed free of charge, an action that may significantly improve the performance of the exhaust system and prevent a repetition of the amber and red warning lights which signal a blockage, or impending blockage, of the DPF. You should at least give this a go. If the SCRF isn't listed as faulty, my advice would be to get rid of this vehicle as soon as possible by the cheapest means available - i.e. reject it as faulty and not as described.
That's interesting. MD said his wife only does short trips and hers was fine- an automatic and that they seemed to just be having problems with manuals. But yes thinking about a petrol automatic as a possibility as I love lots of things about the DS, but it puts the list price up and the company car tax I would have to pay. Gah!!Dashnine said:It affects the automatics too, not just the manuals. Most modern diesels are no longer suitable for pottering about with the odd long trip. The filter clears when it needs it, not when it detects the long trips, so it might need it the day after the long trip.
While you had no choice last March, you have the option of petrol engines now, which don't have the filter. You could try rejecting the diesel and get a petrol instead. If you are pottering about with short runs in the diesel (at its most inefficient) the fuel economy probably won't be a lot worse in the petrol.
Provided that you do at least one journey lasting 60 minutes every 200-250 miles driving at speeds of between 50 km/h and 100 km/h, you should never see the Amber or Red DPF lights. This is the definition of "normal" driving contained in a letter I received from the JLR Executive Office in October 2017.dsaus said:What is the average distance people getting before the the active burn light has been coiming on ?
This is exactly what has happened to us in Melbourne. We have had the red warning and a sudden speed limitation while on a highway (where my wife was driving to...uh...regenerate the DPF. That was great. It's not like driving a diesel engine around a city is something that radical.The car has been into the dealership and one of the sensors was replaced. At the time we were told that this would solve the problem. Surprise, surprise, the problem still exists.
The mechanics at the dealership have told my wife and I to drive the car at a constant 90kph for 20 mins which will clear the amber warning and facilitate active regeneration. We have done this twice now and sure enough the warning clears itself only to return after 1 week of town driving (45 klm). The car has been into the workshop (6th time) and the test equipment indicates that regeneration has only been successful once.
Before purchasing the car and as most people do, I read many articles, reviews and the usual land rover documentation and did not see any mention that consistent town driving would lead to this issue. Land Rover Italia have been made aware of the issue and at the moment, I am considering the replace the car with a Mercedes GLC.
I will definitely ask about this when I speak to them. I think I want to still try with a LR as apart from the issues I love it as a car. So I will also ask about DPF faults in an automatic, what my rights are if that happens again if I change to an automatic. I will ask about changing to petrol too, but emissions are much higher so I would have to pay more company car tax.Barnsh said:It's well worth following up the faulty DPF scenario as per previous post , your dealer might not have seen this and has not checked your DPF physically by removing it and looking at the numbers on it, if it ends in FB it's a free replacement DPF for you.
6 cases going through the financial Ombudsman in the UK , 4 in the last two months. That's just the ones I know of and have helped, only 1 is on this forum.scrf said:Most of the scrf clogged problems seem to be in Australia, different fuel mix?
Dont know of many UK drivers who get to see those warning lamps.
This car is notably worse than others in this respect because the manufacturer has now admitted that some cars in a batch of 200,000 are fitted with a Faulty DPF Component. This comes on top of an Exhaust System Design Fault that they disclosed in July 2017. It seems that some animals are more equal than others.scrf said:convenient that they are not on the forum, the forum shows an Australian trend
Sadly repeated short low speed journeys will clog particulate filters on any modern diesel car, they all have hardware and architecture.
Yes I said I would ask them about this. ThanksChippy said:I'm sorry to hear about your continuing problems but, as has already been mentioned in this thread changing to an automatic version is not going to help you with regard to the DPF fault. It's not a gearbox related problem.
Judging by what you have written with regard to your typical journey types the only real solution is a petrol engined version.
What do you mean by convenient ?scrf said:convenient that they are not on the forum, the forum shows an Australian trend
Sadly repeated short low speed journeys will clog particulate filters on any modern diesel car, they all have hardware and architecture.