Barnsh said:
Past master said:
Just been talking to a local tradesman about his wife's SEAT. Given their problems with having everything reset because of the emissions scandal, then not working, not knowing anything about Adblue until he got an error message, having to have the turbo replaced, I feel much better about the DS now.
Mind you, he's very happy with his Ford pickup.
Rather ironic that the DS starts off with the errors the VW majority has now inherited after being caught and "fixed" by modification.
Yes re the Fordy Pickup .....I see the USA Ford Raptor is coming to the UK too, but what a price tag :shock:
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It's admittedly easy to see why you'd be drawn to one of these. The Raptor is the high-speed version of the legendary F-150 pickup truck, itself one of the most popular vehicles in the world, with a 450bhp 3.5-litre V6 producing mated to a ten-speed paddle-shift automatic gearbox. It'll hit 60mph in around five seconds and will keep accelerating until well over 100mph, despite a kerb weight of over 2.5 tonnes.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/news/big-britain-rhd-ford-f-150-raptor-available-right-hand-drive/
Just to address the relevance of Barnsh's reference to irony. If you haven't seen it, this Guardian article explains what happens to a diesel engine car's performance when the cheat devices are suddenly switched off without making any other changes to the exhaust after treatment "architecture and hardware".
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/mar/25/vw-volkswagen-audi-skoda-seat-emissions-fix-left-car-undriveable
VW were
forced to remove their cheat devices. Other manufacturers planning to follow VW down the DDD path would no doubt have
voluntarily turned off their own cheat devices post 18th September 2015 and then probably made a big thing about how 'clean' their vehicles were and how they would never dream of using illegal software. But having done so, it would have been nigh-on impossible, in the time available, for them to avoid effects similar to those that VW owners have experienced, such as poor fuel economy, increased DPF regeneration activity, intermittently hesitant acceleration, higher AdBlue consumption, etc.
Regarding Land Rover, the DS and Evoque fitted with the 2.2 Duratorq diesel engine never suffered from any of these problems. But these pages (not to forget those on the evoque forum and elsewhere) are literally bursting with similar reports from Ingenium owners who acquired their vehicles after 18th September 2015.
What was it that changed to make a car fitted with a fault-free engine and exhaust combination start behaving like cars that we know had had their diesel defeat devices hastily removed?
This change doesn't appear to have been the result of needing to comply with EU6 because, as the company continues to maintain, their cars have always met the emissions legislation requirements and are performing "normally". Instead they have implied that we, the drivers, suddenly stopped driving properly after the VW emissions scandal and that this is the reason our cars need so many oil changes. We all know that is nonsense. Maybe one day they will truthfully explain the real reason for the discrepancy between the performance of cars sold before 18th September 2015 and those sold afterwards. It would be better for everyone if this was done
voluntarily as well.