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Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by Woolmeister » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:13 am

After almost 13 years continuous Land Rover ownership, I finally got rid of my 17MY Discovery Sport HSE. The sense of relief was overwhelming as I walked away from it for the last time (without so much as a backwards glance to see if the brake discs had already started rusting).

In the end, I couldn't be bothered with going down the rejection route, even though it should have gone long before this weekend. At the end of my 3 year PCP, I was left with a car that was in negative equity and absolutely no incentive from the Land Rover dealers I talked to to trade it in for another one. Fortunately for me, the Škoda dealer I bought the Kodiaq from helped me out a little and managed to find a few hundred quid in it to make the journey to and from Swansea to collect the ex-demonstrator Kodiaq worthwhile. By the way, special shout out to Sinclair Škoda in Swansea who, so far, have been outstanding to deal with.

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So, I'm now driving a 2019 Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI 190 DSG Sportline in Quartz Grey with a beautiful grey leather/alcantara interior and a handful of very nice options on it, including:

  • Panoramic roof (which also opens, unlike the one in the DS)
  • Virtual cockpit (fully digital dashboard)
  • Adaptive Cruise Control
  • Reversing Camera
  • Canton Sound System (Dolby Pro Logic Surround)
  • Heated Steering Wheel
  • Space Saver Spare Wheel
  • Side Steps
  • Memory Seats
I'm sure the Kodiaq will not be without its problems during its time with me but, already, the build quality feels a world apart from the DS. A few initial thoughts...


LIKES

DSG gearbox (finally, how an automatic gearbox should behave - it's not on a par with the ZF 8HP in the SQ5 and Q7 but way better than the awful ZF 8HP in the DS)
Virtual cockpit
Opening panoramic roof
Sports memory seats
Infotainment system (makes the infotainment in the DS feel like an ZX Spectrum)
Rear windows that go all the way down
Rear loadspace cover storage under boot floor
Overall build quality
Roof rails as standard
Adaptive cruise control
Adaptive LED headlamps
Auto-hold parking brake
No rattles (yet)
High quality interior (not quite in the same league as Volvo, Lexus, or Audi, but it’s better than you might expect)
Connected services
Apple CarPlay
Wi-Fi


DISLIKES

No front parking sensors (seems a strange omission for such an otherwise well-specced car)
No volume knob for the infotainment system (only touch screen buttons on the display, although there is also a thumbwheel on the steering wheel which kind of makes up for it)
Some of the interior plastics feel a bit on the cheap side as you get further back in the car (but I cannot fault the front of the cabin at all)
No high beam assist (but the HBA never worked properly in the DS anyway so is not really missed that much)


It's easy to see how the Kodiaq has won so many awards. The doors make a very reassuring VAG thud when you close them (unlike the tinny sound the DS made, which usually resulted in some piece of plastic trim falling off somewhere else in the car). The body panels are thicker material than the DS and they don’t indent when you touch them. The interior space is on a par with the DS, although the boot looks slightly bigger in 5 and 7 seat modes. The interior seems better finished than the equivalent Volkswagen Tiguan Allspace and you seem to get more as standard (although the Volkswagen seem to have more safety features as standard than the Kodiaq).

The thing for me is that I no longer recognise the difference in value between a £53k car and this £33k Škoda Kodiaq. When it was brand new, this car was well over £40k so I’m not having to foot the cost of the initial depreciation of a brand new car, although the higher road tax band (£465 per year) is hard to swallow. The Kodiaq just gets on with what it was designed to do, with no drama. Even with the heavy stop-start traffic on the M4 in Wales on Saturday lunchtime, I still managed to get 47mpg from it on the journey back to Hampshire.

I’m sure there will be some people on here who will dismiss the Kodiaq as not being a “premium brand” and still have some issues getting past the badge. For me, a premium brand is a brand who build a quality product and are able to support that product with minimal fuss and disruption to the consumer. Land Rover were unable to do either in the case of my DS and, as such, I do not recognise JLR as a premium brand any more. I'm not trying to justify my decision for buying a Škoda, btw. Time will be the judge of that (and I'm not expecting a completely trouble-free experience with the Kodiaq). But I do not see nearly £10k more in value between the new DS and my new Kodiaq.

Yes, it’s another diesel and I probably would have chosen the 190 TSI (petrol) one if I had the choice. That said, it’s obviously a Euro 6 diesel with SCR and I’m well aware of the "driving style" required to keep an SCR DPF working efficiently. The AdBlue filler is next to the diesel filler. The service intervals on my car are set to a very sensible 10k miles (rather than the VAG variable servicing intervals) between oil changes.

If you're consider changing out of the DS for something of a similar size, the Kodiaq is definitely worth a second look. We're now a two Škoda household, with a 2015 Fabia 1.2 TSI SE L also on the driveway.

I'll continue to keep this thread updated as and when things break/fall off or I have something positive to report.


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2019 Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI 190 DSG Sportline in Quartz Grey
Opening Panoramic Roof, Virtual Cockpit, Canton Sound, Adaptive Cruise Control, Adaptive LED Headlamps, Heated Steering Wheel, Reverse Camera, Side Steps

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Re: Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by Dashnine » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:55 pm

Nice looking car. I had a look at the Kodiaq when my old DS was about to run out of warranty, but there weren't any available in time due to the WLTP delays. Does yours have the door guards that pop out to protect the door edges? Do they work OK? Umbrella in doors?
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Re: Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by StewartM » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:56 pm

Sometimes the smallest detail causes the biggest annoyance. There was a lot of noise on the Briskoda Forum a wee while ago about the fact that on
models with push button ignition the interior lights don't come on when you switch off. Works fine on ones with a key. How is it on yours ?

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Re: Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by Woolmeister » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:07 pm

Thanks, -9. I think it looks pretty good, too, with the black pack and 20" wheels.

Mine does have the door guards that pop out to protect the door edges but, interestingly, the new 20MY Kodiaqs have deleted this feature (presumably a cost-saving measure). It also has umbrellas in the front doors but I'd rather get wet than use an umbrella. :lol:

StewartM, I just went out to check and it seems that when I switch the engine off on mine the interior lights don't come on but the virtual cockpit displays a journey summary of driving data. It's possible it's because it's daytime and the interior lights don't need to come on so I'll check again later when it's dark. It may be that the interior lights will only come on if the lights are set to auto and they were switched on prior to turning the engine off. Let's see...


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Opening Panoramic Roof, Virtual Cockpit, Canton Sound, Adaptive Cruise Control, Adaptive LED Headlamps, Heated Steering Wheel, Reverse Camera, Side Steps

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Re: Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by PaulCP » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:48 pm

Nice looking car Steve.
My Daughter has had hers, a TSFI, for almost 2 years now and thus far no problems. I was in it 2 weeks ago and could not detect any squeaks or rattles, and she is a childminder so 7 seats get used (&abused) regularly.
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Post by StewartM » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:45 pm

Thanks Steve.

PS, supplemetary question. You said you were very happy with the gearbox, I take it there is no low speed judder.


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Post by Woolmeister » Mon Sep 02, 2019 4:01 pm

Thanks, Paul. Good to hear your daughter has not had any issues with her Kodiaq. I was so close to buying the Lexus NX, but the 7 seats, interior space, and infotainment just swung it in favour of the Kodiaq.

Not noticed any low speed judder at all yet, Stewart. But it's still early days and the car had only done 2,200 miles before I bought it. There's always the possibility that this is yet to come.

I understand the 2.0 TDI DSG Kodiaq has the DQ500 DSG box, which uses a wet clutch technology. I understand this is the same DSG gearbox they put in VW Transporters and other, heavier, VAG vehicles.
DQ500 is a seven speed transverse DSG with a wet clutch pack and a torque capacity of 600Nm, mainly used in the VW Tiguan and Audi Q3 it can also be found in the CV T5, the gearbox code in the diagnostic log shows 0BH and or 0BT. This also has a service requirement of 40,000 miles. Fitted to 2.0 litre 4-cylinder petrol and diesel engines and 2.5 litre 5-cylinder petrol engines.
This looks an interesting site: https://axleaddict.com/cars/DSG-Transmission-Variants

The best automatic gearbox I've ever driven remains the ZF 8HP which Land Rover used in the Discovery 4 (and probably other models). It's also in the Audi SQ5 and Q7 but it's a longitudinal gearbox which means it will never be an option in the DS or smaller transverse engined cars (typo in my original post as the DS has a ZF 9HP NOT a ZF 8HP).


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Opening Panoramic Roof, Virtual Cockpit, Canton Sound, Adaptive Cruise Control, Adaptive LED Headlamps, Heated Steering Wheel, Reverse Camera, Side Steps

GONE - 17MY HSE Auto 180 - JUNK


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Post by StewartM » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:38 pm

Again, thanks Steve.


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Re: Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by Chippy » Mon Sep 02, 2019 7:57 pm

Congratulations Steve, it sounds as though you’ve got yourself a very nice motor and after all the hassle you’ve been through you certainly deserve it.

Good luck and here’s wishing you many miles of trouble free motoring.
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Re: Woolmeister's Škoda Kodiaq 2.0 TDI DSG Sportline

Post by wardie » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:12 pm

Nice looking car Steve, really like the look of the Kodiaq! I keep on double-taking those larger Skodas for BMWs now. Enjoy. Entirely agree with your gearbox comments, the combo of the ZF 8HP with the V6 3l TDI in my Q7 is fab, really made driving fun again.


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