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Diesel "Ripple effects" still being felt.

Post by PhilMabbots17 » Sat May 11, 2019 2:09 am

While 34,000 Evoque, XE and XF diesel owners wait for more news regarding the CO2 recall, it appears that the after-shocks from 2015 are still reverberating around the rest of the industry.
Ask any executive of an auto company what business they are in and you’re unlikely to hear the word “cars”. Instead you will be told they are now a tech company or focused on “mobility”. For all the desire to model themselves as the next Apple or Google, the stench of Volkswagen’s “dieselgate” scandal still stinks up the the corridors of power at European carmakers. Nearly four years on from the German car giant admitted to fitting cheat devices to 11 million vehicles in order to rig US emissions tests, the fines continue to pile up....

Irish Times. 9th May 2019
9 May 2019 - Ripple effect from VW ‘dieselgate’ scandal still being felt
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/can ... -1.3885317

7 May 2019 - Porsche Fined $599 Million for Its Role in Volkswagen Dieselgate Scandal
https://www.thedrive.com/news/27874/por ... te-scandal

7 May 2019 - BMW’s profit falls 74 percent after setting aside 1.4 billion euros for possible EU fine
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/bm ... le-eu-fine

26 April 2019 - Ford under criminal investigation for emissions testing problems
https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/26/1851 ... dieselgate

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Re: The death of diesel? Or the future?

Post by Barnsh » Sat May 11, 2019 4:35 pm

DiscoStu2019 wrote:
Mon May 06, 2019 8:19 am
Whilst I do like the picture - most scientific data puts the amount of CO2 emitted by ALL the world’s volcanoes (land and sea) as between 200 and 650 million tonnes per year.

Now compare that with the 24-29 BILLION tonnes per year that man’s industrial and automotive output produces.

Still, damn i’ll miss diesel and petrol engines when they’re gone. :(
Yep we e had all the fun and freedom of roaring petrol engines, we’ll leave our kids to the electric battery and not so much fun 😀😀
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Re: The death of diesel? Or the future?

Post by Ian_S » Tue May 14, 2019 10:27 pm

Some pretty alarming trends coming though these days I think.

Most alarming is the younger generations willingness to just accept what's fed to them without questioning it. If they don't wake up soon, we'll have lost a huge amount of private mobility just because someone said it would make a cool ride sharing app...

I'd be willing to trade actually driving on a motorway for the car doing it, if that meant the speed you could cover long distances was reduced because autonomous driving meant the cars could go faster safely. Driving standards on busy motorways are frankly shocking these days and smart motorways are IMO anything but. However out side of major motorways I don't see autonomous driving helping. Likewise ride sharing outside major cities won't work, and I don't see how it's much different to Uber now. No car based solution will match the ability of the underground or equivalents to move lots of people quickly in places like London anyway. Who drives in London if you can avoid it?
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Re: The death of diesel? Or the future?

Post by Yasmar » Wed May 15, 2019 12:21 am

We face a very different future that’s for sure, where will the millions that live in flats apartment blocks and houses without driveways charge their electric cars in the years to come? I can’t see local councils or energy companies accommodating them on the grounds of cost alone.
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