NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Anupanu » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:04 am

Clearly you guys all worry about the wrong things...
I am more interested to know who would want a Corris grey car with contrasting* Carpathian Grey roof
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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Barnsh » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:33 am

Love 💖 It NDS .

Landmark rip off , I’d say .
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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Barnsh » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:34 am

Anupanu wrote:
Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:04 am
Clearly you guys all worry about the wrong things...
I am more interested to know who would want a Corris grey car with contrasting* Carpathian Grey roof
That sounds awful :lol: :lol:
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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by shouldvegotamerc » Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:16 am

fifty-shades-of-grey-book-1.jpg

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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Ian_S » Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:25 am

Comes with PVC seats, tie points in all rows and we won’t discuss what rises out of the centre console on turn on.... :shock:
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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Mike Martin » Fri Jun 01, 2018 12:26 pm

NoDiscoverySport, Point 2 in your list is not irrelevant, in my opinion. The £40,400 is very relevant in the UK, due to ongoing car tax.

Many people may have missed the fact that no HSE configuration can get the list price below the £40K threshold where the punitive extra road tax cuts in i.e. an addition £300 for 5 years (yr2 to yr6).

I suspect this landmark edition has only been introduced to get the list price (for UK car tax purposes) down to below £40K for a car with a similar specification to an HSE.

I know the list price is just over £40K, but the list price threshold is calculated before adding i) 1st year car tax, ii) car registrtaion cost, and iii) delivery cost. That easily gets the Landmark edition below the £40K threshold, and thus saves the new owner £1.5K (over the first 6 years).

Many of you will not keep the car for six years, but an extra £300 per year car tax is bound to affect the car’s resale value.

I know this from personal experience, as the DS I ordered in April was going to be an HSE due to the financial contributions Land Rover would make (if I took finance). That was until I discovery the punitive £1.5K extra car tax. I then configured a SE-TECH with only the HSE features that had any value for me, and easily got below £40K (fyi options are included in the £40K calculation).
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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by wardie » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:19 am

Mike Martin wrote: I know this from personal experience, as the DS I ordered in April was going to be an HSE due to the financial contributions Land Rover would make (if I took finance). That was until I discovery the punitive £1.5K extra car tax. I then configured a SE-TECH with only the HSE features that had any value for me, and easily got below £40K (fyi options are included in the £40K calculation).
Except one problem is that resale value calculation is driven primarily off the model level and the extras are devalued/worthless, so you need to factor that in too offset against the tax hit.


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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Dashnine » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:30 am

wardie wrote:
Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:19 am
Mike Martin wrote: I know this from personal experience, as the DS I ordered in April was going to be an HSE due to the financial contributions Land Rover would make (if I took finance). That was until I discovery the punitive £1.5K extra car tax. I then configured a SE-TECH with only the HSE features that had any value for me, and easily got below £40K (fyi options are included in the £40K calculation).
Except one problem is that resale value calculation is driven primarily off the model level and the extras are devalued/worthless, so you need to factor that in too offset against the tax hit.


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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Mike Martin » Sat Jun 02, 2018 9:44 am

wardie, you are absolutely right that extra options are poorly valued on a resale.

When I configured an HSE and an SE-TECH (the later with options I wanted) there was only £1K difference in the list price after allowing for the Land Rover contribution on the HSE. So I thought it a no brainer to go for the HSE due to the higher resale value. Then I discovered the extra £1.5K hit due to the ‘over £40K’ car tax, whuch turned £1K turned into £2.5K.

On balance, I decided £2.5K was just too much a difference to recover via resale value if I kept the car for 5 years. Of course, others may have different views based upon their own mileage and planned length of ownership.
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Re: NEW Close-Coupled DPF?

Post by Barnsh » Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:31 am

I always spec a car so I get e actly what I want.
I aim to keep a car 5 years ( but ironic that I have now had 4 new cars in 2 years ,🙄).

If I’m going to drive it and use it , it needs to be exactly what I want and need , without compromise. I buy the car for my purpose , not the next buyer or resale value.

Take the £2500 figure above , that’s an extra £500 a year to have “things” in or on the car I will use and enjoy. I don’t use PCP or a loan so you could say that by paying cash you have no interest payments, thus this saving pays for some extras.

I normally have high spec cars , but the only caution is those “things” I splash out on must work. A good example is ICTP , I didn’t bother with it in any of the DS as it had too many flaws , no voice for Sat Nav being one major issue for me. So in that case, yes I saved about £2,000.
I put up with the slower but functional ICT ....but could I have put up with that for 5 years ? ...that’s another thought.
But in the FPace ICTP was selected as I could see the fixes coming through thick and fast, so my thoughts are , if I chose an option I always do a bucket load of research first..

So if your holding onto a vehicle or wanting the most enjoyment out of your shiny new purchase I’d say chose the options you want, and build the car you want. Does it really matter how much you’ll get for it years down the road?
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