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marcusp
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Boat launching

Post by marcusp » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:34 am

Anyone tow and launch a boat with their sport.
Im in the process of ordering a warrior 165 boat for sea fishing in Cornwall and whilst the towing aspect doesnt bother me as I tow a caravan of a much bigger weight Ive never launched a boat of a slipway before. Im looking at completing a powerboat lev 2 course that will help but anyone have experience of launching a boat with their disco sport and how it copes on a wet slippy boat slip. Just a little scared of seeing my pride and joy following the boat in to the sea :lol:
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Re: Boat launching

Post by Andy131 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:01 pm

It might help if you specified your DS in your signature.
Older DS are haldex 4 wheel drive, where the power is taken from the main gearbox turned through 90 degrees to the propshaft and sent to a coupling to the rear differential, the wheels individually braked if they lose traction.
My D240 has GKN transmission so has a clutch that connects power to the propshaft, then two additional clutches split the power to the rear wheels. this has the ability to split the power front / rear and rear left / rear right, again with the ability to brake individual spinning wheels.
The newer DS have an electric motor that powers the rear axle, and as such it is not mechanically connected to the engine.
Have pulled a Nissan patrol that was coupled to a huge rib up a very wet slipway, the Nissan just couldn't get traction, the DS on standard tyres managed fine. Earlier that afternoon we had pulled our 3M inflatable and trailer up the same slipway - not sure that putting the rear of my pride and joy into the sea is something I would want to repeat, let alone do on a regular basis.
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Re: Boat launching

Post by Dashnine » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:33 pm

Andy131 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:01 pm
The newer DS have an electric motor that powers the rear axle, and as such it is not mechanically connected to the engine.
Er, you sure?

Only the PHEV has the electric motor on the rear wheels, the other 4WD DS still have the Haldex system as you described (is there a 2WD DS still?). As the D240 is no more, does that mean the Active Driveline (GKN) system is dead too or does the P290 use it?
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Re: Boat launching

Post by PedroT » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:06 am

I tow and launch an Alaska 500, I use various slipways and off sand beaches. The car is best in class at this stuff and I have pulled up the most slippy green surfaces where helpers were hardly able to stand. This is one of DS strongpoints: slippery hard surfaces, it is soft boggy stuff that you really need to take care.
A note of caution on sand beach launching: don’t allow rig to sit for extended periods with engine running whilst you do stuff to boat and trailer, as it tends to encourage settling into the sand and makes pulling off harder in your car.
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Re: Boat launching

Post by marcusp » Wed Jul 21, 2021 8:50 am

Thanks for everyones advice. I have a 2020 p240 R Dynamic and was under the impression it had the Haldex drive.
Pedro very useful info thank you and your Alaske is very similar to a warrior 165 so hopefully it sounds like a good combination
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Re: Boat launching

Post by RafflesNH » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:04 am

Dashnine wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:33 pm
Andy131 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:01 pm
The newer DS have an electric motor that powers the rear axle, and as such it is not mechanically connected to the engine.
8<
As the D240 is no more, does that mean the Active Driveline (GKN) system is dead too or does the P290 use it?
According to the latest (May 2021) LR Pricing and Specs brochure, the P290 is only available in the 'Black' edition and features the Active Driveline too.
"Discovery Sport Black features a 2.0 litre 290HP Petrol engine and, exclusive to this model, Active Driveline, providing you with more power and even greater handling."
https://www.landrover.co.uk/Images/21JL ... 872565.pdf (See page 6)

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Re: Boat launching

Post by Dashnine » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:50 am

RafflesNH wrote:
Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:04 am
Dashnine wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:33 pm
Andy131 wrote:
Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:01 pm
The newer DS have an electric motor that powers the rear axle, and as such it is not mechanically connected to the engine.
8<
As the D240 is no more, does that mean the Active Driveline (GKN) system is dead too or does the P290 use it?
According to the latest (May 2021) LR Pricing and Specs brochure, the P290 is only available in the 'Black' edition and features the Active Driveline too.
"Discovery Sport Black features a 2.0 litre 290HP Petrol engine and, exclusive to this model, Active Driveline, providing you with more power and even greater handling."
https://www.landrover.co.uk/Images/21JL ... 872565.pdf (See page 6)

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I always thought it a bit strange only one or two variants used the GKN Active driveline, I presume it's more about the Haldex system not being strong enough to handle the D240 / P290 power. Hence the GKN solution is used but is too expensive to use across all the range (I'm too cynical to believe the marketing hype...)
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Re: Boat launching

Post by Andy131 » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:07 pm

Having put over 185,000 miles on a Haldex 3 Freelander 2, over 45,000 miles on a Haldex 5 DS and 22,000 miles on an Active Driveline equipped DS I can honestly say that they all just worked, no fuss, do noticeable difference.

OK the D240 actually uses less fuel towing than either of the other two, and the Freelander was the worst solo on fuel economy.
The FL2 did some really serious off-roading without hesitation, the first DS did everything asked of it - snow, towing stuck vehicles out of ditches, dragging the tin tent across Europe.
The latest DS doesn't have underbody protection yet, so I am not inclined to abuse it off-road, the tin tent is no problem, waiting for the snow ....
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