Delays in deliveries - October 2020

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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by simon_hill » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:56 pm

badboy1984 wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:54 pm
This delay applied to all DS models right? Not only the PHEV? My dealer told me my replacement vehicle is ordered but no delivery date as well.
I THINK this delay only applies to the PHEV vehicles (Evoque as well as Disco Sport).
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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by simon_hill » Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 pm

On the Evoque Forum (thanks for the link Barnsh), the latest is ...

'Just been in contact with dealer about CO2 and delivery and he says that all MY20.5 models are being held in the JLR compound until the emission EV issue is sorted. My build date has been pushed to 08.01.21'

Oh heck!
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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by Barnsh » Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:46 pm

simon_hill wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:45 pm
On the Evoque Forum (thanks for the link Barnsh), the latest is ...

'Just been in contact with dealer about CO2 and delivery and he says that all MY20.5 models are being held in the JLR compound until the emission EV issue is sorted. My build date has been pushed to 08.01.21'

Oh heck!
Worth keeping an eye on that thread , and a copy of the promised figures for WLTP.

As noted over there any change in BIK rate for company cars from 6% promised last April to 10% next band if it ventures into that band is £1200 per year additional cost .

It’s just astonishing that JLR cannot give an honest answer to prospective customers.
But in the other hand nothing new 🤔
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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by jgrewal » Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:10 pm

Just gobsmacked and this is a real mess now - I may have to cancel and look at alternative EV option that's

a) actually legit and has potential to be made into a reality
b) in stock

This is real heartbreak but maybe LR wasn't the the right brand to gamble on my first venture in EV! I have heard nothing from my broker and I am pretty sure I will not because they don't want to break the news. Ready to call and cancel tomorrow and will keep all updated. Logging onto Tesla website..

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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by jgrewal » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:08 pm

Just got an update from the dealer after I chased and stated some of what had been in the updates we had here. He confirmed that it’s definitely to do with the WLTP and CO2 banding on all p300 models Evoque and Discos cars.

He’s said this should be ironed out by 'next week' with the intention of all stock cars like mine (MY2020.5) to be booked in for delivery after that. I accepted what I was told - whether that timeline was realistic or believable is anyones guess.

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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by PhilMabbots17 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:30 pm

sandbox wrote:
Wed Sep 30, 2020 7:34 am

There are two official WLTP electric range figures. ‘WLTP combined electric range’ (or ‘all electric range’) is an average across all four WLTP test cycles (‘low’= city driving; ‘medium’= town; ‘high’= rural; ‘extra high’= motorway).
The other figure you’re likely to see is ‘WLTP city electric range’, which only uses the low (city) and medium (town) test cycles.

You only have to provide WLTP combined electric range’ (or ‘all electric range’) figures as it is more useful and accurate.

Source:
https://www.nfda-uk.co.uk/downloads/NFD ... g-2019.pdf
Fact: JLR have published all the required information.

Full WLTP figures are printed in the brochure and on the web site . You can’t sell a car without published WLTP figures.

If the author is still there, why have they stopped taking orders for the PHEV?

Why are no new cars being handed over?

Fact Check: People are getting very angry and want Jaguar Land Rover to make an honest statement.
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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by dorsetdisco » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:43 pm

As someone with a late Freelander 2 that has proved quite reliable I was in the process of looking at ordering a DS but this looks like a dogs breakfast and confirms my view that you should never buy a car that has just come into production especially from JLR.

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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by Barnsh » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:47 pm

dorsetdisco wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:43 pm
As someone with a late Freelander 2 that has proved quite reliable I was in the process of looking at ordering a DS but this looks like a dogs breakfast and confirms my view that you should never buy a car that has just come into production especially from JLR.
Aye, I learnt that lesson 3 times before I gave up with the DS dream . Some folks have faired slightly better with later models .
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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by VeryDiscoSport » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:40 pm

Barnsh wrote:
Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:47 pm
Aye, I learnt that lesson 3 times before I gave up with the DS dream . Some folks have faired slightly better with later models .

I would avoid new technology if possible because most of the time the risks outweigh the rewards. Don't believe anything that this manufacturer tells you. Let others do the in-field testing for them and wait to see what things look like after a couple of years. By then most of the worst issues will have been straightened out. Usually...
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Re: Delays in deliveries - October 2020

Post by pcheaven » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:11 pm

Confused

Isn’t the f type a restyled discovery sport

They share the same d7 platform, engines, electronics, in control system, software updates and dealerships.
Just different styling, and setup for a more road biased use ?
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