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papayacheng
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by papayacheng » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:00 am

we owned a petrol Si4 MY16 DS for 2 years (2016 to 2018) from brand new.

2016: back to dealer 3-4 times due to lot of error messages ( e.g. AEB not available etc..) , gearbox would not engage from start, gearbox loss power on freeway ( wife had to stop the car at the middle on freeway and restart the car) , speaker vibration etc..

2017: problem identified: faulty alternator replaced, car drives normally since

2018: car involved in an accident, AEB saved all our lives , car was written off

now: now we have a newborn we will not want to go down the path of owning a LR again as we have no time to take the car back and forth to dealers even though there is some possibilities that the next LR can be reasonably normal

( I have had a ford focus, subaru liberty, Honda Jazz, BMW E91 320i ( 2 x oil leak events over 5 yr of ownership and satisfactorily fixed by BMW dealer with reasonable costs) , now having a 2017 Merc c-class for 1 year : none of these cars had given us such headaches of owning a brand new land rover)
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by shouldvegotamerc » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:49 am

Yesterday when I was doing about 75 down the M6 there was a crunch from the back wheel arch like I'd run over a traffic cone. I got out to have a look as soon as i could and found the bottom piece of the drivers door was missing. :roll:
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by Ian_S » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:33 am

PhilMabbots17 wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 11:11 pm
HOWEVER, the Mercedes GLC has also had a lot of bad press on HJ. 2,600 words!
:shock:
Indeed.... the GLC appears to have a major issue with crabbing/skipping. Mercedes answer? Fit Winter tyres, which they will generously fit for free...

So not just JLR who have 'odd' fixes to problems, or is that no fixes. They've also tried getting customers to sign waivers stating that they understand the characteristics of the car.

Most car companies are the same IMO.
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by Chippy » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:50 am

Ian, I think we could modify your statement to:

ALL car companies are the same!
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by Ian_S » Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:59 am

I say most as the willingness to fix increases as the price does. All car companies produce cars with issues. I've seen Aston jump through hoops to rectify issues on a 4 year old used car that would have cost them a significant amount of money in relation to the value of the car.
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by PhilMabbots17 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:58 am

Dashnine wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:00 am
Every car is a 'potential liability',
Ian_S wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:33 am
Most car companies are the same IMO.
Chippy wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:50 am
ALL car companies are the same!
Correct, but while all animals might be equal some animals are still more equal than others (imho) :D
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by PaulCP » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:13 pm

PhilMabbots17 wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 11:58 am
Dashnine wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:00 am
Every car is a 'potential liability',
Ian_S wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:33 am
Most car companies are the same IMO.
Chippy wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 7:50 am
ALL car companies are the same!
Correct, but while all animals might be equal some animals are still more equal than others (imho) :D
With one big part of the solution being how the manufacturer and its dealers deal with issues when raised. This is where LR fall down big time.
Yes you are likely to get problems with any car, what you don’t want is all the hassle that goes with dealing with LR and it’s arrogance
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by HmmmUK » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:23 pm

PhilMabbots17 wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 10:38 pm
To be fair, it's not just users of this forum. There are more than 6,500 words of complaint on Honest John alone, which takes 10 pages of A4 to print off. This is an unprecedented "achievement" and it demonstrates clearly that this is much more than a whinge about the diesel issue described in JLRP00100. I wish everyone with one of these cars the best of luck but the evidence that the car is a potential liability cannot be denied. Potential owners ought to know this.
...
To be fair...
Most of that was posted by the same people that post here.
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by BFGDSMan » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:48 pm

That is very true, indeed word for word in some cases.

Personally I don't rate HJ and some of his advice is utter b******s, however, many people use such websites when making making buying decisions and as ever there is no smoke without fire.

Under the Good/Bad tab for the DS there are currently 74 x "things to look for", 54 x "complaints received" and 12 x recalls listed!

For my E Class (a car which has been on the market 12 months less but still in excess of 2 years here in UK), the are 4 x "things to look for", no complaints received" and 4 x recalls listed (1 of which doesn't actually apply to the E Class and none of which have affected any car built in the last 12 months).

No smoke without fire...Oh and (in UK) a top spec E220d Est SE is less than an HSE Lux DS!
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Re: Prospective DS Owner

Post by interbear » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:56 pm

shouldvegotamerc wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:49 am
Yesterday when I was doing about 75 down the M6 there was a crunch from the back wheel arch like I'd run over a traffic cone. I got out to have a look as soon as i could and found the bottom piece of the drivers door was missing. :roll:
Similar happened to me - the grey plastic trim on the bottom of the passenger door just dropped off. Clicked back into place and all seems OK....until the next time.

Overall thought I am now 2 years in with my DS and it's been very good. I'm thinking of changing but only because I'm now doing more motorway miles due to a job change and may need to go with a more economical vehicle, so 4 wheel drive may be sacrificed in favour of MPG. That said after 2 years of depreciation (I bought new) I may be better sticking with the DS having funded that depreciation. I'm unsure really...
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