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Re: Service interval

Post by Hauser » Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:59 pm

PaulCP wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:45 pm
Hauser wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:31 pm

So it seems the Ingeniums are not as bad after all. Since non-Ingenium engines look the same...

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It’s also well known the the latest V6 engines in the D5 and RRS suffer from exactly the same oil dilution issues as the DS 2.0l Ingenium engine. Similar tales of woe on both the relevant forums.

Of course, we have to accept that it’s all about everbody’s driving style :lol: whilst LR execs ponder why they are losing market share and try to dream up even more excuses for their bad engineering decisions
Who is talking about oil dilution?
Look at the numbers... Oil dilution isn't an issue with my samples. It's the wear metals...

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Re: Service interval

Post by PaulCP » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:34 pm

Hauser wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 7:59 pm
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Who is talking about oil dilution?
Look at the numbers... Oil dilution isn't an issue with my samples. It's the wear metals...

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In my book, along with the wear metals, 2.46% dilution over 3350miles is an issue.

Only my opinion of course, it’s your car
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Re: Service interval

Post by Hauser » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:00 am

Sorry PaulCP, you seem to be puzzled by numbers. You are mixing up two different tests (of actually two different cars).
Here the last test of my DS: Oil was used for 6169 miles (9.929 km).
So if you do the math, my DS would be hitting 15.300 miles (24.620 km) when oil dilution would reach 6.1%. That's just a little lower than what I do in two years anyways. But in reality, that isn't even true. The oil in the previous sample (see the oil analysis thread) was used for two years and 14.529 miles (23.383 km) and had 4.07% oil dilution. That's approximately 2/3 of the service interval and also 2/3 of the allowed oil dilution. So I don't see an issue here. - The amount of wear metal is a whole different story though.

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Re: Service interval

Post by PaulCP » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:16 am

Ah OK, my bad, I missed the middle bit of you original post stating that the last section of numbers was for the previous DS :roll:
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Re: Service interval

Post by a2b2 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:36 am

Hi
A bit puzzled and would appreciate other’s thoughts.

Just had second interim oil and filter change on my MY17(March) DS. Countdown started at14,800 miles, so dealer agreed the work would be FOC. So far so good.

When I collected the car there was no charge. I wasn’t given any record of the work done. When I got home I logged in to the car’s OSH and found that there was nothing showing since the first interim oil/filter change, which had been done at 6,900 miles.

Starting to get a bit suspicious, I checked the distance to next service message. It read 12,150 miles. I had expected it to be in the range 19,850 to 21,000 miles.

So, I’m wondering if this is all normal.....no paperwork, nothing on OSH and reset to 12,150 miles?
Maybe I should be grateful it was FOC.
I’d be glad of any advice before I go to query all this with the dealer.
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Re: Service interval

Post by EYR » Fri Nov 16, 2018 11:08 am

I wasn't given anything after the job was done either until I requested it for my own records, they then printed off the invoice that will go to LR. Unsure what the other figures meant though other than the dilution percent :?

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Re: Service interval

Post by a2b2 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 2:35 pm

Many thanks EYR

I hope to get something like the invoice you received, especially since the OSH gives me no evidence of the work having been done.

Coincidentally, my vehicle’s oil dilution was also 6.9%. I have ordered a Millers test kit and will post that result when I have it.

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Re: Service interval

Post by Past master » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:37 pm

Interim oil change doesn't go on OSH as it's not a service as such, merely a warranty item or a goodwill gesture, depending who you speak to. I think some forum members have had it added to OSH on request.
Doesn't seem logical but that's the way it is.
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Re: Service interval

Post by a2b2 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:55 pm

Thanks, Past master.

I get it now; a goodwill gesture not on OSH makes sense.

What confused me (easily done!) was that the first oil and filter change, which was done at 6,900 miles, was entered into the OSH by a Spanish Main dealer. To muddy the waters further, they logged the work as both an oil/filter change and a main service. I’ve been assuming that they couldn’t log the one without the other.

Off now to polish my interrogation skills and find out why my service range was set to 12,150 miles.
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Re: Service interval

Post by Dashnine » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:48 pm

a2b2 wrote:
Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:55 pm
Thanks, Past master.

I get it now; a goodwill gesture not on OSH makes sense.

What confused me (easily done!) was that the first oil and filter change, which was done at 6,900 miles, was entered into the OSH by a Spanish Main dealer. To muddy the waters further, they logged the work as both an oil/filter change and a main service. I’ve been assuming that they couldn’t log the one without the other.

Off now to polish my interrogation skills and find out why my service range was set to 12,150 miles.
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