OBD Bluetooth Adapter

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by woolz » Sat Jan 02, 2021 9:31 am

Mamil wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 9:06 am
Got all excited by this and bought a TorquePro ELM327 ODB reader and downloaded the TorquePro App for Android.

Unfortunately it doesn't show me any of the DPF values, or even any exhaust temperature values!

So, no use for predicting when a regen will happen, or even detecting one underway. I'm disappointed.

Oh well, I guess it's back to checking instantaneous fuel consumption and whether stop/start is working for me.

Mine is 2016 MY with the old 2,2 engine.
Hi did you manage to fix this yet? I have tried torque pro, car scanner pro which show some basic info but no detail around the DPF. I have a 2016 2.0 ingenium engine.
Help appreciated

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by Biker » Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:53 am

I already had an ODBII scanner and tried a few apps from Google Play Store.
Car Scanner seems to be the best of the lot.
However, I also don't get the DPF regen data as mentioned by @47MBC or @popsky
I too have a 2.0 ingenium MY17 (VIN SALVA2AN7HH.....) built in 2016.

Interestingly there are 2 readings that is not associated with any 'name' per se which now caught my attention and I am curious about.
Under the non-continiuos data, when I create my dashboard with the sensors from Exhaust gas (only sensor 1 & 4 gives me a reading), the default values are some numeric number that doesn't relate to Degrees C or F. All the readings are either just a number or % (except for one that has secs) , where-as the "All Sensors" section displays values in degrees C, kPa, km, l, ppm, mA, g/sec, etc.

My curiousity is now whether these 2 readings represent the start of any regen (when it reaches 9.99) in conjunction with the reading in kPa (pressure differential in sensors before and after DPF )to trigger the process??

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2016 TD4 180 HSE MY17

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by Biker » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:03 am

From the software/app associated with my ODB2 adapter, I get this info for the 2 manufacturer defined ID's

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2016 TD4 180 HSE MY17

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by woolz » Mon Jan 04, 2021 9:29 am

Biker wrote:
Mon Jan 04, 2021 6:53 am
I already had an ODBII scanner and tried a few apps from Google Play Store.
Car Scanner seems to be the best of the lot.
However, I also don't get the DPF regen data as mentioned by @47MBC or @popsky
I too have a 2.0 ingenium MY17 (VIN SALVA2AN7HH.....) built in 2016.

Interestingly there are 2 readings that is not associated with any 'name' per se which now caught my attention and I am curious about.
Under the non-continiuos data, when I create my dashboard with the sensors from Exhaust gas (only sensor 1 & 4 gives me a reading), the default values are some numeric number that doesn't relate to Degrees C or F. All the readings are either just a number or % (except for one that has secs) , where-as the "All Sensors" section displays values in degrees C, kPa, km, l, ppm, mA, g/sec, etc.

My curiousity is now whether these 2 readings represent the start of any regen (when it reaches 9.99) in conjunction with the reading in kPa (pressure differential in sensors before and after DPF )to trigger the process??
Agreed car scanner is by far the best but as you state does not provide any DPF info :-(.
I don't quite understand why some users on here are able to view dpf and some arent using the same app - ECU block ?

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by Andy131 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 3:54 pm

Ok I don't have a Bluetooth dongle (yet - can't resist a new gadget) but I popped the Foxwell scanner onto the OBD port and Gill took a couple of pictures of the Exhaust temperature and pressure. We had driven about 5 miles to the motorway, and maybe the same distance again down the motorway at 70mph before Gill managed to take some less shaky pictures.

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Showing a temperature 1 at 1025F = 552C
Temperature 3 at 716F = 380C
Temperature 4 at 631F = 332C
and a differential pressure of 3psi = 20kPa

Question is at this point is the car physically doing a passive regen by driving normally?
After only 3 miles of town driving from cold <30mph the Temperature 1 is getting on for 800F (426C) and the T3 and T4 are around 600F (315C). The T1 did climb past 1200F (648C) just a few miles later down the motorway but the T3 and T4 never got above 780F
It just seems odd that the entry to the DPF is relatively hot, but the exit is so much cooler even on the motorway.
Granted this is from a 2018 D240 (Vin SALCA2AN4KH...)

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2018 DS HSE Lux.
2016 DS HSE auto, for 45k nice (grey!) car.
2014 Ewok for 6 months, really really rubbish.
2008 FL2 for 185k miles, should have kept her.
2006 FL1 for 110k miles, brilliant car.
2000 FL1 for 100k miles, fell apart but started the LR bug

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by jruiz14 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:08 pm

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you can ask I know all the details of the operation of this engine and its problems with oil, dpf and distribution chains

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by jruiz14 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:15 pm

Here is an example regeneration begins between 55 and 60% saturation,

I just finished one and the value is at 5%

https://servimg.com/view/19624909/170

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by jruiz14 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:20 pm

It does not work to make regenerations at will, but to read values ​​and know when it will start.

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by SarahStreet » Mon Jan 04, 2021 4:22 pm

Andy131

Your VIN indicates a 19MY vehicle

The relevant DPF sensors are as follows :

Bank 1 (input at larger turbo end)
Bank 3 (output to DPF)
Bank 4 (DPF Actual Temp)

Temps will all hit 600°+ during a regen. The giveaway is that Bank 4 will correspond with Bank 1 more or less temperature-wise when a regen is taking place. Does the Foxwell unit offer a DPF Regen Type indicator? Where 1 is passive and 2 is active? What about a Trigger for Regen field in percentage terms, is that available to view anywhere?

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Re: OBD Bluetooth Adapter

Post by Andy131 » Mon Jan 04, 2021 7:24 pm

Cheers for that Sarah

never got my head around the MY bit I just assumed that as it was registered September 2018 (but only PDI in December 2018!) that it was a 2018.

The Foxwell NT510 Pro was good for the 2008 FL2, and OK for the Ewok and September 2016 DS180 but is reduced to a bare OBDII reader for the new DS and they aren't going to do any further updates.

I can get the temperatures, and some pressure readings but nothing useful on the DPF - hence the question.
If Covid restrictions kick in I suspect it's going to be a while before I can justify driving for maybe for a hundred miles or so just to see if the temperatures do climb without the fuel consumption taking a hit to show a passive regen.
I suspect that it is going to be another two or three years before a "hobbyist" diagnostics tool is available for my car, which is one of the reasons that I am not going to go desert bashing for a couple of years, the idea of taking such a complicated machine without suitable diagnostics well away from the safety of LR dealerships doesn't fill me with confidence. We took a 2006 FL1 through Morocco into the Sahara when it was only two years old, only "breakdowns" were buckled wheel, punctures and smashed exhaust - all due to total lack of driver ability, but boy was it fun.
2018 DS HSE Lux.
2016 DS HSE auto, for 45k nice (grey!) car.
2014 Ewok for 6 months, really really rubbish.
2008 FL2 for 185k miles, should have kept her.
2006 FL1 for 110k miles, brilliant car.
2000 FL1 for 100k miles, fell apart but started the LR bug

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