INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by Lofty1 » Wed Feb 14, 2018 11:20 am

I have also thought that given the various problems with the DS, in particular with the oil dilution with high metal wear with implications for the life of the diesel Ingenium engine, that some type of class legal action should be considered. However, I think one should be very careful about going down this legal route as once the media got hold of the story the secondhand price of diesel DS’s would fall like a stone with the car being labelled a lemon.

As a private buyer who paid cash for my DS I thought I would be keeping it for several years and to date I have not had any of the problems reported on this forum, it was previously a JLR management car and perhaps they sorted the problems out whilst they owned it. But the potential premature engine wear is a concern. I had accepted that an annual/12,000 mile oil and filter change would be necessary as I believe you should do with any make of car. I certainly change the oil on my BMW annually and I have always done with my previous cars. My FL2 which I kept for nine years was the most reliable car I have ever owned.
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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by Albanach » Wed Mar 28, 2018 2:16 pm

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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by NoDiscoSport » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:08 am

All the latest oil reports have now been added to the spreadsheet.

Just a reminder that the sheet is "protected" to prevent inadvertent over-writing of the data cells whilst leaving the parameter cells for Viscosity (Q5) and wear metals (rows 36,37) open for experimentation. Changing the caution and warning levels drives the colour highlighting in the data cells and modifies the calculated mileages for when a service "should" be performed based on 3 key parameters.

As an example, if you want to see the estimated mileage to service based on a cautionary dilution of 4% with a warning at 6% just over-write the values at K36 and K37 and (with the 4th April data) the average mileage to service based on oil dilution goes up to 9,207. If you ever need access to all the cells, unprotect the sheet by clicking Review-->Changes-->Unprotect Sheet.

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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by bjm » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:50 am

How is everyone getting their oil samples?

I ordered a test kit that comes with a vial. Instructions say to let the oil drain from the sump plug for 10 sec then fill the vial.
I'm not too sure I'm going to be able to convince the dealership to do that while they're changing my oil.

My DS is up to it's 2nd "service required" oil change in 13,000km...
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Post by Chippy » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:00 am

bjm,

Others have done it by extracting (sucking) oil out from where it's put in (filler pipe on the top of the engine). There's something on here about it with a link to a suitable and simple device (I think from eBay).
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Post by Badgerface » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:24 am

Morgen Herr Chippy, wie gehts? Nice to see that I'm not the only one up early on here!

bjm, as Chippy has suggested above, an oil syringe is available on either eBay or Amazon for a quid or two, and makes the job a lot easier.
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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by bjm » Wed Apr 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Thanks for the advice. I ended up using a 50mL syringe and a small tube to suck a sample out of the dipstick tube.

Now I have to send it off and find out what they say...
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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by OT76 » Tue May 29, 2018 1:54 pm

Tested by my LR dealer today. Dilution 6.5%. Oil and filter change being done today.
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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by Barnsh » Tue May 29, 2018 2:06 pm

OT76 wrote:
Tue May 29, 2018 1:54 pm
Tested by my LR dealer today. Dilution 6.5%. Oil and filter change being done today.
That’s not tested that’s the SDD (guessoneter reading) or better known as algorithm reading.
Dealers cannot do a proper test as in here using millers, they’d have to send it away and they don’t.
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Re: INGENIUM 2.0 DIESEL OIL ANALYSIS RESULTS

Post by roydonaldson » Tue May 29, 2018 3:59 pm

Another thing you may want to do is to just go and change the oil and filter yourself every 10,000 miles say, or even every 8,000 miles. This way it never gets to the point where it is diluted.

Of course, this would be a pricey option if you had JLR do it for you. I've however always just run down to National Cars & Tyres to get oil changes done, as it's so cheap there.

I've just called my local branch and an Oil and filter change for my '17 Disco Sport is £52 with 5W30 ESP oil.

Seems fairly reasonable there.

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