Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

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BlackBetty
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Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by BlackBetty » Fri May 28, 2021 2:34 pm

Hi all, late 2016 disco sport hse 2.0 auto Ingenium engine 50k miles.
Patch of gearbox oil on the driveway and drips on plastic oil catch tray.
Investigated further and discovered leak between what I guess is the gearbox and power transfer box.
No evidence of oil higher up only bottom joint.
No warranty. Thoughts of actual fault and price to get repaired?
Many thanks in advance.

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by MHIGGITT » Fri May 28, 2021 3:31 pm

From the picture it appears the same problem I had last year with my DS 2016 with 42k on the clock. I think it was at least 10 months out of warranty. Cost me £725 if memory serves, car was booked in for 2 days. Then gasket had to be replaced again after 3 months as it was still leaking very slightly. FOC Obviously. Good luck.

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by BlackBetty » Fri May 28, 2021 3:58 pm

Great and thanks for the info. If its a gasket only I guess I'm a bit relieved that it's not anything internal that would need a rebuild etc. I guess we won't know for sure until I get it to a garage.

Any other thoughts and opinions welcome

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by Paul41 » Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm

I also had this happen on my DS of the same age last year, dealer said it would have been around £750 for the repair, there are a few posts on this issue if you use the search feature, I would certainly push for some good will from LR by asking the dealer to contact them on your behalf or raise a case with LR customer relations centre (CRC) yourself. My dealer has always been very good on doing this.
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Andy131
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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by Andy131 » Fri May 28, 2021 8:47 pm

As yours is a D180 I am going to assume that it is a "normal" Haldex 5 system that has a front power take off unit that transfers the power to the prop shaft and on to the Haldex unit mounted close coupled to the rear differential. Coming from a Freelander 2 that also has the earlier Haldex system, the Power take off unit does fail, normally at high mileages (mine went at 150,000 miles).
There is a company that is a sponsor on Freel2 the Freelander 2 forum, they are Bell Engineering Ltd (Worcestershire), they specialise in the transmissions for Freelander, Evoque and Discovery sport, a service exchange PTU is around £850 + VAT. Worth considering should the unit fail totally.

Please note that the box has only a small capacity and an oil leak if not spotted will be terminal, also note that as far as I am aware the unit is fitted for life (no service interval) without a drain plug, do yourself a favour and change the oil at 75,000 miles or sooner.

I have no association with the company, but have used their services in the past and found them very helpful.
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2016 DS HSE auto, for 45k nice (grey!) car.
2014 Ewok for 6 months, really really rubbish.
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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by BobbyBox » Sun May 30, 2021 12:49 am

same issue on ours at around 85k miles.
You might find that the leak is actually elsewhere. In our case, i too saw oil deposits in the under tray. LR diagnosed it to a gasket fail on the right hand side of the engine (timing chain side). When they removed the drivers side wheel arch liner it was soaked in oil on the inside. Similar cost to fix, covered by the extended warranty. Paid for that years premium in a single issue.

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by BlackBetty » Thu Jun 03, 2021 6:31 pm

Thanks all for the info. I took the car to the garage earlier in the week. They weren't able to pull it apart till next week but offered to top up the oil in the power transfer unit in the meantime. They dipped the level and it was near empty. When they added more oil it poured out of the join with the gearbox just as quick so sounds like a seal has failed completely. Left the car with the garage as not safe to drive. Will find out more next week.

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by BlackBetty » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:24 pm

All fixed. New seals, some oil and time. Delighted with the job and the cost (£461) Highly recommend Ian and the team at North East 4X4 Stonehaven

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by Posiden » Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:15 pm

Hello,
Ive just dropped the sump guard on mine to change the engine oil and have got oil leaks on both sides of the Haldex box. This car is a 2.0 litre SE Tech on a 68 plate with only 29000 miles on it.
Needless to say Im not impress with the leaks or the fact I having to change the engine oil myself at this mileage because the sample results said it was past it.

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Is this a warranty claim ?

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Re: Power transfer box/gearbox Oil Leak

Post by Andy131 » Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:50 am

Yes £50k cars that are within warranty don’t leak oil and that should be the end of the discussion with the dealership.
Doing a bit of simple maths, current mileage 29k, first service 21k so 8k since last service - not unheard of , did the car ask for an oil change or did you get a sample tested?

As I am keeping mine It had a service at 12k an oil change at 23k and is coming up to its second service at 35k - no science to it, just the extended service interval doesn’t feel right. Our D180 got oil changes every 9-10k based on rising oil level
2018 DS HSE 240D
2016 DS HSE auto, for 45k nice (grey!) car.
2014 Ewok for 6 months, really really rubbish.
2008 FL2 for 185k miles, should have kept her.
2006 FL1 for 110k miles, brilliant car.
2000 FL1 for 100k miles, fell apart but started the LR bug

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