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Post by NoDiscoSport » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:20 am

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17MY DS150PS 6 speed manual. Rejected as "not of satisfactory quality", "not as described", Consumer Rights Act 2015.


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SCRF Diagram - for the above

Post by NoDiscoSport » Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:36 am

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17MY DS150PS 6 speed manual. Rejected as "not of satisfactory quality", "not as described", Consumer Rights Act 2015.


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Re: SSM73697

Post by Barnsh » Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:13 am

So now we have SOME fault SCR/DPF to throw in the mix
My18 FPace, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
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My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
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Re: SSM73697

Post by back of beyond » Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:53 pm

As everything else seems to be getting repeated today. i will repeat 'no dpf fitted to DS'
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Re: SSM73697

Post by Barnsh » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:37 pm

back of beyond wrote:
Thu Jan 25, 2018 12:53 pm
As everything else seems to be getting repeated today. i will repeat 'no dpf fitted to DS'
Yes CG a DPF is part of the SCRF system ( the RF is the Reduction Filter) same thing same story .
As I told you before they call it DPF and DPF light as that's is what non technical people understand .
My18 FPace, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:


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Re: SSM73697

Post by Badgerface » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:43 pm

CG?!? Surely not..... :D
MY17 HSE Luxury TD4 Ingenium 180ps - Aintree Green with Black Pack/ICTP/825w Meridian Audio
MY13 HSE Luxury FL2 2.2 SD4 190ps - Baltic Blue with NO Oil dilution issues whatsoever!
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Re: SSM73697

Post by Barnsh » Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:53 pm

Sorry not born yesterday. :roll:
My18 FPace, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:


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Re: SSM73697

Post by back of beyond » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:41 pm

Id have got away with it if it wasnt for you pesky kids.

No matter who said it there is still no dpf. Scrf performs a dpf like function but doesnt have a dpf inside it.


Im not here to offend anyone.but im sticking to my principles and sometimes i cant make omlette without cracking eggs.

Tell me true facts and we will get on fine.
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Re: SSM73697

Post by Barnsh » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:46 pm

Read the SMM

DPF light fault codes ....etc

It's just interchangeable words

They call them DPF lights as that's what users understand.

Then they change the SCRF ( which the DPF lights ) apply to.

You just have to accept it's sloppy .....agreed but it's what industry does.
My18 FPace, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:


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Re: SSM73697

Post by Barnsh » Thu Jan 25, 2018 2:58 pm

And just to add to the mix it was called an SDPF first by Terres, After packaging of bits in one box.
The S is Selective , this is DEF addition.

Then some bright spark at Johnson Matthew trade marked SCRF which is why you see the little R in a circle next to it.

Owners can't keep up with this so the name DPF stuck.
Wrongly perhaps but it stuck.

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Packaging constraints will be one of the biggest challenges with reintroducing the DPF to existing aftertreatment systems. Space within engine compartments is already limited, especially in smaller pieces of equipment, making it difficult to include more components. Terres says one way manufacturers are looking to overcome this is to use the SDPF technology being introduced for light-duty vehicles in which the selective catalytic reduction (SCR) catalyst is coated directly onto a DPF substrate. “This DOC + SDPF system requires only a small amount of additional space compared to the Stage IV SCR-only system,” he explains.

Also referred to as an SCRF, these SDPF systems are able to warm up faster due to their closer proximity to the vehicle’s engine than an SCR located downstream which enables earlier NOx conversion. According to Johnson Matthey, a manufacturer of SCRFs, these systems improve thermal management of the catalyst. They are also demanding systems and therefore may require additional SCR/ammonia slip catalyst to maximize nitrogen oxide (NOx) conversion. Gary Simons, Exhaust/Emissions Engineering Director at Donaldson Company Inc., says these systems can impact packaging, but generally not diesel exhaust fluid (DEF, also referred to as AdBlue) mixing performance.
My18 FPace, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:


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