Power Steering Failure

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Charlieian
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Power Steering Failure

Post by Charlieian » Mon May 14, 2018 10:27 pm

Well it was going so well! 26 months in and no issues then started up Last Tuesday after a short run home from work and ping power assistance reduced warning with some additional associated warnings.
Let me tell you now you need PAS on a 2 ton car!
Drove back to work (around 5 miles) and it kicked back in after a couple of miles - glitch I hoped - nope after restart back again and to dangerous to risk any further driving.
Waited ages for LR assist who eventually sent the AA who did their best to no avail. Car recovered following day to dealers and I eventually got a courtesy car - Jag EPace nice to drive but not really that practical but does have operating PS.
Not heard of this fault before - AA suspect alternator fault - still awaiting update from dealer. Car has only done 17k
DS HSE Black 2.0 180 Corris Grey Del March 2016

Barnsh
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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Barnsh » Mon May 14, 2018 10:48 pm

Only thing I’ve ever seen about loss of steering was in a recall , and even then it was listed just as a possibility. Please let us know what they find , hope it’s a quick fix for you.

31-1-2017: R/2016/289: Land Rover Discovery Sport, Range Rover Evoque with 2 ltr diesel vehicles with automatic transmission: Electical Short Circuit: It has been identified that the engine wiring harness of the 2.0ltr engined vehicles fitted with automatic transmission may have been incorrectly routed which may allow the wiring harness to contact the water charge air cooler bracket. Engine vibration can cause a chaffing condition where the outer sheathing of the cable can wear through and expose the wires of the engine harness. Depending on the orientation of the wires within the harness, then damage to wires can result in electrical arcing and a short circuit. This condition can also result in the illumination of a warning light on the instrument panel, loss of the electronic steering system, engine cut out without warning, melting of the cable sheathing and surrounding parts. Also, in extreme circumstances it can cause an under-bonnet fire. Fix: All affected vehicles will be recalled to inspect the clearance between the engine harness and water charge air cooler bracket. If the clearance is not to the correct specification the wiring harness will be repositioned and secured to ensure the specified clearance is achieved. If the engine harness shows signs of chafing the engine harness will be repaired, re-positioned to ensure the correct specification. VINs: SALVA2BN2HH168185 to SALVA5BN3HH188706 and
SALCA2AN9HH633943 to SALCA2BN2HH653045; build dates: 4-7-2016 to 10-10-2016
My18 FPace, 25t, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:

Chippy
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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Chippy » Tue May 15, 2018 4:55 am

It’s certainly the first I’ve heard of this except the recall which Barnsh mentions.

I had the dealer check my second DS just in case but there was no sign of harness damage.
MB GLC 250d.
Gone: 2 x DS TD4. Both rejected - B pillar ticking.
Evoque TD4. Increasing problems.

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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Charlieian » Tue May 15, 2018 8:50 pm

Update from dealer today: it is the harness awaiting new harness which is on a priority order as there are none currently in stock. Car was only serviced a month ago you’d think they would’ve checked for recalls and advisories?
At least I’ve got wheels it seems it’s going to be a while!
DS HSE Black 2.0 180 Corris Grey Del March 2016

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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Barnsh » Tue May 15, 2018 10:53 pm

Charlieian wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 8:50 pm
Update from dealer today: it is the harness awaiting new harness which is on a priority order as there are none currently in stock. Car was only serviced a month ago you’d think they would’ve checked for recalls and advisories?
At least I’ve got wheels it seems it’s going to be a while!
That was a compulsory recall not a campaign they should have written to you ! I’d be asking why they didn’t notify you.

Infact it was a recall that had a further recall because the first rendition of moving it didn’t work.
My18 FPace, 25t, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:

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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Barnsh » Tue May 15, 2018 11:00 pm

Here’s the recall for the “NOT DURABLE” recall.
Apparently the first move made it rub somewhere else.

28-4-2017: Land Rover Safety Related Recall PO96 issued. "Land Rover Discovery Sport and Range Rover Evoque 2016 model year Diesel Engine Specification Vehicles - AJ200 Diesel Engine Harness Foul to Umbilical Bracket. A concern has been identified with the routing of the engine harness in that it may not provide sufficient clearance and as a result could contact the Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve (EGR) umbilical bracket fitted to the vehicles identified above. Vehicles included in Safety Recall PO75 (R/2016/289) have received a modification which has subsequently been determined is not durable for the life of the vehicle. As a result, engine harness contact with the EGR Umbilical Bracket can cause the wires within the engine harness protective sleeve to wear through, exposing the actual wires to short to the metal bracket added as part of the Recall PO75 (R/2016/289) repair. There is a possibility that any circuit within the engine harness could be compromised dur tp this condition resulting in a range of vehicle failure modes. Jaguar Land Rover engineers have identified that in the worst case it is possible that the vehicle engine may cut out whilst in motion. Should the engine cut out the brake vacuum reeervoir will be depleted and the brakes will lose power assistance, however foundation brakes continue to operate."
(31-12-2016: R/2016/302. Land Rover Discovery Sport, Range Rover Evoque with 2.0 litre diesel engine: SHORT CIRCUIT MAY OCCUR. Vehicles included in safety recall R/2016/302 (P075) [Means R/2016/289] have received a modification which has subsequently been determined as not durable for the life of the vehicle. The engine harness may chafe on an engine bracket and cause engine malfunction. In extreme cases the engine may cut out. Fix: On affected vehicles inspect harness and repair as necessary. Fit new bracket and secure harness. VINs: SALVA2AN4GH079010 to SALVA2BNXGH099325 and SALCA2AN6GH545785 to SALCA2CN6GH567024. Build dates: 9-7-2015 to 16-10-2015.)
My18 FPace, 25t, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:

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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Chippy » Wed May 16, 2018 6:01 am

Not the sort of dealer that I’d be happy doing business with.
MB GLC 250d.
Gone: 2 x DS TD4. Both rejected - B pillar ticking.
Evoque TD4. Increasing problems.

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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Dashnine » Wed May 16, 2018 6:40 am

Ops car was delivered prior to the build dates in the recall and therefore subsequent re-recall too.
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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by reethbikey » Wed May 16, 2018 3:17 pm

Not exactly the same but whilst mine was in for the warranty works on the brake discs the dealer noticed corrosion to the bolts holding the power steering motor so whole new steering rack and motor was fitted.

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Re: Power Steering Failure

Post by Barnsh » Wed May 16, 2018 3:48 pm

Dashnine wrote:
Wed May 16, 2018 6:40 am
Ops car was delivered prior to the build dates in the recall and therefore subsequent re-recall too.
Yep so maybe yet another recall on the way, ??
My18 FPace, 25t, BRG, R Sport, Auto. 18 way mem Seats, ActiveLED, PrivGlass, ICTP, blis, cooled gloves, spare.
MY17 HSE 180 gone
My16.5 DS 180 b pillar tick ~ rejected :oops:
My16 DS 180 ~ rejected :oops:

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