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We have a 65 HSE luxury. In September my wife was driving the car and white smoke started coming into the car. So thick she had to pull over. Pressed the button and got a mechanic out. No fault found. Went to local dealers again nothing found. This week I was driving and the same thing happened I noticed that stop start although on was not working the car filled with white electrical smoke and I had to pull over. Looked under bonnet and cannot see any source. Very worrying and now don't want to drive it. This is our second car so am worried and wonder if any of you have experienced this. I have read posts about adblu and exhaust and don't think it is this. Any help would be appreciated
 

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Hello spikkyboy,

That certainly sounds rather disconcerting and is thankfully something that I've not experienced.

I would have thought that if it were an electrical fault that, by now something other than the start/stop could have been affected. Don't forget that in cold weahter this function doesn't come on immediately.

Assuming you have an automatic gearbox then you can probably rule out clutch burning.

Other things you could look at are something trapped in the heating vents or maybe burning oil.

Whatever it is I hope you find it soon and that it can be easily remedied.
 

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What's your coolant level like , is it white smoke or steam perhaps?
Did it come through the air vents ?
 

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spikkyboy said:
Def smoke not steam. Smell of burning plastic. Coming poss from engine bay or under and in thru the vents. Very quickly filled the car with thick white smoke
Ah OK burning antifreeze smells like hot syrup, sweet , sickly and white smoke too, I was thinking burning antifreeze through air vents .

If electrical smell which is pretty acrid....
Back to dealer or you could call kandrover assist and get them to take it to the dealer. Not worth the risk of driving it in case it goes on fire I guess.

Not good:-(
 

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If it happens again take video in and around the car. It might help a) prove this is happening and b) identify the source.
 

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The stop start doesn't work when the DPF is regenerating it also smells like burning plastic/rubber I would get the dealer to check is this was occurring when you had the issue.
 

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I had something similar, the dealer confirmed that the regen had occurred at the same time. Apparently this is normal, and after the first few regens will not e noticeable.
 

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With respect smoke entering the car shouldn't happen when the regeneration occurs, whenever the car is new or older.
 

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Discoloz said:
With respect smoke entering the car shouldn't happen when the regeneration occurs, whenever the car is new or older.
Very true. You may get a smell being drawn in (like the D3 fuel burning heater used to do) but never smoke or vapour!
 

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Our car has been in dealers since last Wednesday. They still have it. We had a strange phone call to ask if we noticed anything wrong or heavy with the steering???
Anyway they have sent some fault sheet to JLR and awaiting info / advice. Have not been told what the problem is or what the required fix will be so just waiting to hear.
 

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Our car has been in dealers since last Wednesday. They still have it. We had a strange phone call to ask if we noticed anything wrong or heavy with the steering???
Anyway they have sent some fault sheet to JLR and awaiting info / advice. Have not been told what the problem is or what the required fix will be so just waiting to hear.
I wonder if they are suspecting leaking power steering fluid burning on a hot surface?
Rather odd that they won't say what they have found.
Or perhaps the electric steering control smoking?

I know the steering is electric but there must also be some sort of power steering fluid to move the actual wheels in the system.

It will be interesting to hear what they find.
 

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No fluid in a pure Electric Power Steering system, the motor is geared to the column or the rack depending on type. Electronically powered hydraulic power steering generates the pressure by motor when needed instead of via permanent pump connected by auxiliaries (fan) belt.
 

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No fluid in a pure Electric Power Steering system, the motor is geared to the column or the rack depending on type. Electronically powered hydraulic power steering generates the pressure by motor when needed instead of via permanent pump connected by auxiliaries (fan) belt.
Still hydraulic fluid in it as per your description though? It's just motor pumped as needed not constantly driven by pulley .?

Unless it's full electric
 

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Dashnine said:
No fluid in a pure Electric Power Steering system, the motor is geared to the column or the rack depending on type. Electronically powered hydraulic power steering generates the pressure by motor when needed instead of via permanent pump connected by auxiliaries (fan) belt.
Still hydraulic fluid in it as per your description though? It's just motor pumped as needed not constantly driven by pulley .?

Unless it's full electric
Yes, looking around it seems DS is EPHS, not "full" electric so they're a bit naughty saying it's 'electric power steering', but hey, anything to make it sound technically more advanced..... So yes, it could be fluid leaking out somewhere.
 

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Dashnine said:
Barnsh said:
Dashnine said:
No fluid in a pure Electric Power Steering system, the motor is geared to the column or the rack depending on type. Electronically powered hydraulic power steering generates the pressure by motor when needed instead of via permanent pump connected by auxiliaries (fan) belt.
Still hydraulic fluid in it as per your description though? It's just motor pumped as needed not constantly driven by pulley .?

Unless it's full electric
Yes, looking around it seems DS is EPHS, not "full" electric so they're a bit naughty saying it's 'electric power steering', but hey, anything to make it sound technically more advanced..... So yes, it could be fluid leaking out somewhere.
I wasn't sure which it has but Came across this scarey one for a 2014 evoque ...amazing what a loose clip can do.
 

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Hello all, this is my first post. I'm writing this out of frustration and also to make people aware of the problems that I am experiencing.

I've read on a few different forums that there are people complaining about a burning smell coming through the air vents of their discovery sports. This normally occurs when the car is at a standstill after doing a small run (this normally happens when the engine has reached temperature.) the car has been taken into the dealership on more than four occasions for this fault to be diagnosed. On all four occasions they failed to diagnose what the fault was. I started to grow concerned when my two boys, nearly 14 years of age, all of a sudden, became travel sick. It was after speaking to a gas fitter that it was suggested that I might want to purchase a carbon monoxide detector . Sure enough, not only when the burning smell occurred but also without the burning smell, I was getting a reading of 30 parts per million. This didn't mean anything to me but apparently it is dangerous and particularly harmful to children. There are known cases of this in America in which it has put the driver to sleep while driving a vehicle and killed the occupants, I'm not in anyway saying that it's a discovery sport that they were driving and to my knowledge it wasn't.

I made a video to show Land Rover the carbon monoxide reading to which they did seem to take the issue seriously. They said that head office was not aware of any such burning smell being reported to them. I was essentially sent away and told to wait approximately a month before they could get my vehicle in for investigation to diagnose the fault. When asked what I should do in the meantime regarding the burning smell, the manager simply replied "put the re-circ on or wind the windows down". I wasn't happy with this and raised my dispute with Land Rover head office who got my car in earlier to be diagnosed. The senior technician showed me a picture that head office had sent him as to where to look for the fault. He also confirmed they were aware of the issue. The problem seems to be a part that connects to the catalytic converter being deformed, leaving a small gap allowing fumes to escape in to the cabin of the car. My car is still with the main dealer (about 12 days now) waiting for this part to be repaired. I have asked both the finance company and the main dealer if they would allow me to reject the car amicably to which they refused. My car has been in the main dealer over ten times for problems with the brakes squeaking, rear seat squeaking, other parts squeaking from the rear of the car, scratches being removed from the car on three separate occasions from being caused by the dealership washing the car when specifically being asked not to and finally, the back brake lights filling with water. Apparently, because they didn't find the fault for the burning smell on the first, second or third occasion, it does not qualify for the vehicle being rejected. Trying to reject the vehicle because the brakes are squeaking and also the damage caused to the body work doesn't qualify as a fault. Anyone who has a burning smell inside the car would be advised to buy a handheld carbon monoxide detector, in fact, I would recommend that anyone with a discovery sport should invest in a carbon monoxide detector as carbon monoxide is odourless. For those that already have or are thinking about investing in a carbon monoxide detector, don't assume everything is safe if the meter does not register immediately, it took a two hour run in the car for me to get the readings I got. I'm more than happy to post the video of the readings on YouTube should anyone be interested.
 

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Very worrying as we have the same issue. What confuses me is that Carbon Monoxide is supposed to be odourless, so that doesn't jibe with what you have experienced. I will buy the monitor......
 

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Because of the burning smell and my children feeling sick I bought the meter. I am aware it has no smell. I bought the meter to be safe in knowing there was no Carbon monoxide coming into the cab. It turns out I was getting high CO reading when we had no smell at all. There shouldn't be any CO entering the cab full stop. I hope you get your issue fixed. I brought my meter from Amazon. I was able to return it for a full refund within 15 days.
 
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