[BFGDSMan]

I think you have missed the point. I really don't care what anybody says about my video's, however, not all YouTube watchers are forum members so it's better to link the comments to the video where they are posted.

Grateful though if you think I've made a mistake in the service reset video to show them here and publicly. Last time I looked it worked perfectly for all cars, less as it now appears for software modified late MY 17 and MY 18 cars ( which of course wasn't the case when it was originally filmed last October).

As I said before, if you are such an expert, make and post your own video(s) and show us all how it's done.

 

[BFGDSMan]

Just to let you know I have now posted an additional video showing how the oil filter cartridge fits into place

As ever comments under the video on YouTube much appreciated.

 

[BFGDSMan]

The oil change video at the top of this thread is actually extremely poor, (presumably the only one available at the moment) he backtracks several times, loosens the oil filter and then goes for a drive to warm the engine, (ok if your knowledgable, very risky if not) and then refers to the under body panel which has been previously removed! I spent 7 years as a training instructor and could point out many more failings. eg no safety warnings re oil , no use of gloves.

and NO I am not going to make a replacement video, Sorry,

Well, just as well I only made it to guide you through the process - its not a professional video, and I am not a professional instructor. I await you making your own video and showing us how its all done. :!: :!:

 

[BFGDSMan]

Cars not an a service plan as it's cheaper not to - we are lucky to have a service point just out of town (they don't retail but they are an official MB service point so all good from a guarantee perspective) from us that is 1/2 the price of the swanky MB chain in town.

Evidence so far from my wife's car is 2500 miles in 3 weeks (!!) and the service counter is on 13100 miles to service. Ad Blue is consistently going down at 1 litre per 500 miles.

 

[BFGDSMan]

Touche

I have reported the author of this post to the moderators for a violation of forum rules.

No offence taken on my part

 

[BFGDSMan]

Bfds is complaining about changing oil every 6 months, I am pointing out his merc oil will only 9 mth intervals, not vastly different
No need for this thread to become a DS bashing event.

I am sorry, but I fear you have missed the point. I am only "complaining" about 6 months because that it is not what was promised. I have no issues with an oil change every 6 months - its all part of the territory of covering relatively high mileage. The point of the Merc is that 15000 miles WILL BE 15000 miles.

If I "bash the DS" it is based on the factual evidence of 3 cars and 3 and 1/2 years of cumulative ownership (covering MY 15, 16 and 17 production examples) that have seen a total of over 60000 miles of motoring and sadly included 4 breakdowns, 3 warranty claims, 3 extra oil changes and about 35 build quality faults that have needed to be rectified. It is not based on me making stuff up. If I could sing the DS's praises I would, but I can't. This forum (and indeed all forums for whatever subject) are about about discussing openly, objectively and honestly issues which contributors encounter on a daily basis so that the merits of the forum topic (in this case DS cars) can be discussed. Sadly I am not and will not be in the future the only non DS owner on this forum who have been forced to turn our backs on DS ownership due to a combination shockingly inferior ownership experience and dealer/manufacturere aftercare experience.

If your car is perfect then that is fantastic. I can only base my experience on the cars I have owned and run. Personally I would rather not bash the DS, it is a great package, with a high specification of standard equipment, good looks, extremely spacious and comfortable interior and is the very best towcar I have ever owned. None of this counts for anything if it has to keep going back to the garage for warranty and unscheduled service work.

Anyway before this thread ends up being moved/locked for straying away from the topic I shall draw stumps there - we shall just have to agree to disagree about the merits of DS ownership.

 

[BFGDSMan]

Yes, by Mercedes as it won't need doing by me in between the official figures...

As has been commented in other places on the forum, if LR had told me it was an 12 months/12000 mile oil change I would accept the 9000 to 10000 mile interval I got as down to my driving style. When they say 24 months/21000 miles I expect that to be what I need to do, and indeed what I was looking forward to after swapping from my original 2.2d car (12 months/15000 miles BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THREAD.....

 

[BFGDSMan]

BB,

Always great to receive feedback, glad it has empowered you to dive in and have a go (and save yourself some money)! Although I have changed the oil on my car, it is a bit ridiculous to have to scrabble under a £47k+ car every 6 months and do, still it keeps my neighbours amused...

BFG

 

[BFGDSMan]

Ok. As I said in the video I screwed it off by hand. If you are able, it would be good if you could add your info as a comment under the video?

 

[BFGDSMan]

Well, I for one very much appreciate the effort that you've put into this and other videos.

Thanks a lot.
Cheers

Chippy,

Thanks.

To all other forum readers please don't make any further comments about my YouTube skills and clog up this forum post - we are all entitled to our opinions, however, please feel free to add comments (positive or negative) on my YouTube channel where the video is posted.

BFG

 

[BFGDSMan]

I wonder how much oil the dealer charges for?
The manual says 7 litres, in the video it's 5 litres to the bottom of the dipstick, so anther litre to the top seems reasonable.
I've just changed mine, the Shell oil came in 1 litre containers, and it took exactly 6 litres to the top of the dipstick.

Thanks very much for the service resetting procedure - worked a treat.

Agreed that it was one of the easiest oil changes I have done for many years - the Freelander 2 was guaranteed to rip the skin off your knuckles against the radiator.

I think the quoted capacity for a brand new un-used engine is what is quoted in the book. I think on my last oil change I took out just on 5 litres (well the dipstick was always only ever on half way from new) and put back in about 6 litres. Clearly some oil will remain in the engine as it can't all drain down, even if one leaves the plug off for half an hour or so. Of course if the stealer can claim an extra litre (say £15 to 20 per car for every car) then that's a good little earner, especially since they "buy-in" their oil in bulk in drums and not the rip off retail price we have to pay for 1 litres retail packs. I have just bought another 10 litres more of the Patronas Oil I used in the YouTube video I posted and the price is still €64 for 10 litres delivered (in Germany).

Just to let you know that I have now done 8000 km (5000 miles) since I changed the oil (to Patronas) and the counter is still at 12500 miles. No change in driving style and no software updates done to the car. The first change was done at 15000km (9000miles), so maybe the Patronas Oil dilutes less than the Castrol??

 

[BFGDSMan]

Update - I think I must be mad, but car does seem to run better right fresh oil! First thing if did within 20 mins was a full regen ( really smelly, hot and ticking), which it hasn't done since the service warning, wonder if it turns the wick down a bit when the oil if knackered?? (Sounds crazy I know).

It definitely idles smoother and full consumption is a bit better....

Also 200 miles driven and 200 miles off the service counter....

 

[BFGDSMan]

Thanks for the positive comments. I think if you can show how simple something is to do on a video then it gives people the confidence to try. I was inspired to change the clutch and dual mass flywheel via a YouTube video as it brought to life the Haynes manual.

This link gives the spec details for the oil: http://www.extranetpli.eu.petronas.com/dsp/pdf/eng/stec/1855_stec_ENG.pdf as you can see it meets the JLR spec.

 

[BFGDSMan]

Filter part number is spot on! Sadly I mistakenly edited out how I unclipped and the pushed the new filter cartridges in - sorry!

TBH the oil us quoted as meeting the JLR spec so I went for it. I have to say if you put a drop between your fingers and tub them together it feels really really slick (unlike any other oil I have ever used), n fact a bit like butter for slipperiness!

Hopefully you will see it's an easy job to change it yourself if you can't be bothered to go to the dealer every few months and/or LR decide not to give you a free change.